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Sydneyfan
08-30-2006, 07:58 PM
:upyours World Cup 2010: could the winner be . . . Sydney?



Rumours surfaced during the World Cup in Germany that Australia was an option for 2010 should South Africa fail to meet its construction deadlines.

At the same time, Australia's state premiers have formally committed to a World Cup bid, with 2018 the most likely option. Football Federation Australia is expected to make its own announcement shortly.

Under the loose rotation policy used by international football's world governing body, FIFA, the next three World Cups are due to be hosted by Africa, South America and Asia/Oceania.

But Brazil, which is planning for 2014, does not have enough stadiums to meet a 2010 deadline, leaving Asia-Oceania in pole position should South Africa be stripped of hosting rights.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid could thus become viable, with Sydney the likely frontrunner to host the final.

South Africa is desperately trying to make up time. Its government has set aside $US750 million ($986 million) to build three stadiums and renovate seven, and 8.7 billion rand ($1.6 billion) to upgrade airports, roads and railways.

Early this month the South African Government approved a special measures bill to meet the legal requirements for hosting the tournament.

During the debate in Parliament, the Minister of Sport, Makhenkesi Stofile, was eager to dismiss criticism that construction was behind schedule and that the country's transport network wouldn't cope with the expected 350,000 visitors.

"The World Cup offers us an opportunity to present ourselves to the world for what we really can be," Mr Stofile said. "We believe that hosting the World Cup offers us the biggest opportunity to banish Afro-pessimism. We do not intend to replicate this year's World Cup or compete with the Germans. But we believe the same spirit of national pride as we saw among the Germans can be achieved among South Africans."

Despite the optimism a senior international football source has told the Herald that doubts persist. Just recently, the source said, a group of British firms pulled out of tendering for World Cup construction work because of impossible deadlines.

A FIFA spokesman described the speculation as ridiculous last night. "We were asked the same thing in July, and the president made it clear we were not looking at alternatives," he said.

However the FIFA president, Sepp Blatter, who has staked much personal prestige on Africa hosting a World Cup, could change his tune if re-elected, as expected, next June. "He can't make any hard decisions now, but if things haven't improved after his election, he might be ready to make a call," a source said.

Australia already has five stadiums [two in Melbourne and Sydney and one in Brisbane] that would meet World Cup standards. A new 60,000-seat stadium is planned for Perth.

The other three stadiums required to host a World Cup would be in New Zealand, which is in the process of upgrading grounds in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin for the 2011 rugby World Cup.

blueone
08-31-2006, 03:38 AM
Why is it that 2010 doesn't seem too far off??

Sydneyfan
08-31-2006, 03:42 AM
I very much doubt this will happen - but it would be fabulous if it did.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 01:58 PM
Great! All the games would be in the middle of the night here. I like watching the world cup but I won't stay up till 4 in the morning to do it.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 03:18 PM
Great! All the games would be in the middle of the night here. I like watching the world cup but I won't stay up till 4 in the morning to do it.

Ha, well usually its us having to stay up all night to watch international sports. So it would be a nice change.

This story is still hanging around over here - but I suspect its designed to scare the South Africans into action more than anything else.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:29 PM
South Africa won't be much better!

Rob
09-01-2006, 03:30 PM
South Africa won't be much better!
The US will be out after group play anyways.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:35 PM
The US will be out after group play anyways.

That's cause all the athletes here play real sports.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:37 PM
That's cause all the athletes here play real sports.

Throwing a ball then resting for 5 minutes?

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 03:38 PM
That's cause all the athletes here play real sports.


The English guys will enter this thread any minute now.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:39 PM
The English guys will enter this thread any minute now.

Already got there.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 03:39 PM
Throwing a ball then resting for 5 minutes?

Damn. You beat me.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 03:39 PM
Already got there.


ARRRGHHHA Stop it.....!!!

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:40 PM
Throwing a ball then resting for 5 minutes?

Which sport would that be? At least professional darts isn't big buisness here.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:42 PM
Which sport would that be? At least professional darts isn't big buisness here.


Your padded up rugby.

I'll have you know, there is nothing like getting over christmas hangovers like watching mindless arrow throwing 24 hours in a row.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:44 PM
Your padded up rugby.

Ever heard of the 25 second play clock?

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:45 PM
Ever heard of the 25 second play clock?

They play 25 seconds...in a row?

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:47 PM
They play 25 seconds...in a row?

You have to start the next play in 25 seconds or you get a delay-of-game penalty.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:49 PM
You have to start the next play in 25 seconds or you get a delay-of-game penalty.


Ah ok, believe me I have tried to like american footy, I like most of your sports but the football one I just don't get.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Ah ok, believe me I have tried to like american footy, I like most of your sports but the football one I just don't get.

There are some fairly complicated rules and strategies that make it somewhat hard to follow if you don't know the game. A bit like Cricket would be I imagine.

Rob
09-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Only sport that matters:

http://static.flickr.com/74/224019727_7b73212bba.jpg

Factory Boy
09-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Is that Rounders Rob?;)

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:52 PM
Baseball is the one I enjoy the most, the most like cricket, and it's on at 2am so it gives me something to watch when I can't sleep.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:52 PM
How about baseball? That happens to be my personal favorite. But it you think that football (excuse me...American Football) is slow, then baseball probably bores you to no end. However, I think that your football is incredibly slow and boring...you can actually see the grass growing.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:53 PM
Too slow I guess!

Factory Boy
09-01-2006, 03:54 PM
grass growing.
That happens to be my favourite sport.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:55 PM
That happens to be my favourite sport.

I'm far more partial to paint drying myself...If they just lined the field maybe we could do both at the same time.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 03:56 PM
How about baseball? That happens to be my personal favorite. But it you think that football (excuse me...American Football) is slow, then baseball probably bores you to no end. However, I think that your football is incredibly slow and boring...you can actually see the grass growing.

It's probably the same difference with me not understanding NFL.

One thing about football is that you can watch an uneventful game, but still be engrossed, if it's your team that's playing...shouting at the ref, oppo, etc.

I have noticed that you guys over the pond sort of need the scoreboard to be constantly ticking over to be entertained, or be reaffirmed that something is happening.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 03:58 PM
It's probably the same difference with me not understanding NFL.

One thing about football is that you can watch an uneventful game, but still be engrossed, if it's your team that's playing...shouting at the ref, oppo, etc.

I have noticed that you guys over the pond sort of need the scoreboard to be constantly ticking over to be entertained, or be reaffirmed that something is happening.

I'm a big fan of the 1-0 baseball game so scoring isn't really the issue. The thing that bothers me the most about soccer is that you can play for 90 minutes and no one wins. There should always be a result.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm a big fan of the 1-0 baseball game so scoring isn't really the issue. The thing that bothers me the most about soccer is that you can play for 90 minutes and no one wins. There should always be a result.

Why? That's why there's a season full of games.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:00 PM
Cause tie games seem like a waste of time.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 04:01 PM
There should always be a result.

Forget cricket then.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:02 PM
Forget cricket then.

They have a lot of ties in that as well? Are they scoreless ties mainly?

Quincy
09-01-2006, 04:03 PM
They have a lot of ties in that as well? Are they scoreless ties mainly?

I'd love to see a scoreless cricket game....I don't think that can happen unless it rains for 5 days.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 04:04 PM
Are they scoreless ties mainly?



:lol Not often.

They have a lot of draws.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 04:06 PM
:lol Not often.

They have a lot of draws.

Not so much anymore I'd say. The run rate has increased quite a bit, especially in the Ashes, it was over 4 an over if I recall.

Sydneyfan
09-01-2006, 04:07 PM
Not so much anymore I'd say. The run rate has increased quite a bit, especially in the Ashes, it was over 4 an over if I recall.

Maybe you're right. I blame steroids and Daryl Hair.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:08 PM
Not so much anymore I'd say. The run rate has increased quite a bit, especially in the Ashes, it was over 4 an over if I recall.

With all that scoring the teams still manage to have the same number at the end of the game?

Factory Boy
09-01-2006, 04:17 PM
If neither team has won over the 5 days, it is a draw however many runs are on the board.
Oh no, that's really going to confuse you isn't it?

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:20 PM
If neither team has won over the 5 days, it is a draw however many runs are on the board.
Oh no, that's really going to confuse you isn't it?

The team with the most runs doesn't win?

Quincy
09-01-2006, 04:21 PM
The team with the most runs doesn't win?

In the one-day game they do.

But in the long-version, basically in order to win you need to bowl the other team out twice.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:21 PM
In the one-day game they do.

But in the long-version, basically in order to win you need to bowl the other team out twice.

And that is an incredibly difficult thing to do?

Factory Boy
09-01-2006, 04:23 PM
The team with the most runs doesn't win?
They need to bowl out the opposing team before they reach their total of runs. If the opposing team aren't bowled out, they have forced a draw.

Quincy
09-01-2006, 04:23 PM
And that is an incredibly difficult thing to do?


I wouldn't say that otherwise no-one would ever win.

trappss1
09-01-2006, 04:25 PM
Now I'm really interested in seeing some cricket and learning its rules. The only experience I have with it is in the movie King Ralph when John Goodman hits one through the window of the palace.:lol