***15/10/07 Alabama Theatre, Birmingham, AL***

[Sydneyfan]

SETLIST:


So far:

Bartering Lines->
Tears Of Gold
mockingbird
peaceful valley
please do not let me go
cold roses
trouble on wheels
a kiss before i go
arkham asylum
goodnight rose
shakedown
Set 2:
I See Monsters
Nightbirds
Recue Blues
I Taught Myself How To Grow Big
What Sin
possible ZOMG tANTrum



Anyone from here going?

[Rob]

I am.

[Sydneyfan]

I am.

:lol The invisible man.

[Tim Simmons]

Rob lies.

[Sydneyfan]

Rob lies.

Who would lie about going to a show? :confused

[Faded Rose]

Perhaps the date confused him.:confused

[gimp2704]

Is there an opening band? Or, what time do you think Ryan will play?

[Sydneyfan]

Is there an opening band? Or, what time do you think Ryan will play?

Venue website says show starts at 8pm. I don't know about an opener though.

[Faded Rose]

There seems to have been a distinct lack of openers so far this tour.

[Rob]

There seems to have been a distinct lack of openers so far this tour.
That fact makes the shows seem even shorter.

[Faded Rose]

That fact makes the shows seem even shorter.

OK OK - and when there's no encore it seems shorter still. You've become a very bitter man about Ryan's shows.....Me - I remain full of optimism that London will be awesome.

[Rob]

OK OK - and when there's no encore it seems shorter still. You've become a very bitter man about Ryan's shows.....Me - I remain full of optimism that London will be awesome.
:lol where's the bitter. just stating a simple fact

don't forget that setlists have been quite stale

[Faded Rose]

:lol where's the bitter. just stating a simple fact

don't forget that setlists have been quite stale

The length of the show really doesn't bother me that much but I do agree that the setlists have become very samey. There doesn't seem to be much thought going into them. Basically it's the same old songs in a different order with the odd different 2 or 3 in the mix. That's a shame for a man with such a large catalogue of songs to choose from. It's an easy option. I imagine if anything different is going to crop up it will be at the Halloween show.

[FrigidRoses]

3rd straight show without a break. Hope he isn't in a pissy mood.

[burgerqueen]

That's a shame for a man with such a large catalogue of songs to choose from. It's an easy option. I imagine if anything different is going to crop up it will be at the Halloween show.

I agree, but I was just thinking yesterday how I think it would be tough to remember all of his songs (music & lyrics) to be able to switch it all the time. Maybe it's because I'm not a musician, but it seems like a lot to do.

[Sydneyfan]

RA has obviously been reading this thread. Setlist has started with Bartering Lines.

[raer7385]

bartering lines.................interesting......

[Sydneyfan]

Setlist updates are apparently being broadcast on RAR. If anybody wants to tune in and then post the updates here as they happen, please feel free.

[daveford3]

mockingbird
peaceful valley
please do not let me go
cold roses

according to ryan adams radio

[Sydneyfan]

mockingbird
peaceful valley
please do not let me go
cold roses

according to ryan adams radio

excellent, thanks. I'll add this to the top of the thread.

[daveford3]

trouble on wheels
a kiss before i go

[Sydneyfan]

Added. :upyours

[daveford3]

arkham asylum
goodnight rose

[daveford3]

shakedown :banana

[daveford3]

ive been away so i dont know if there is any songs before these but the radio dude said

i see monsters
nightbirds
rescue blues
i taught myself how to grow old
what sin

[FrigidRoses]

Sounds like an awesome show. :rock

Nevermind. Sounds like the show ended in a tantrum.

[taparoo]

Nice lookin set.

From the Archive...

Set 1:
Bartering Lines->
Tears Of Gold->
Mockingbird Song
Cold Roses
Peaceful Valley
Please Do Not Let Me Go->
Trouble On Wheels->
A Kiss Before I Go
Arkham Asylum
Goodnite Rose
Shakedown On 9th Street

Set 2:
I See Monsters
Nightbirds
Recue Blues
I Taught Myself How To Grow Big
What Sin
possible ZOMG tANTrum

[Sydneyfan]

Thanks taparoo and daveford. Any more confirmation on the tantrum?

[raer7385]

oh God, please tell me there wasn't a tantrum for the sake of my own sanity.

[Sydneyfan]

oh God, please tell me there wasn't a tantrum for the sake of my own sanity.

It's not clear yet. A couple of people have received texts from the show saying the show ended abruptly. So, we wait and see I guess. But it sounds like something went slightly wrong towards the finish.

[Sydneyfan]

Okay, this report has a bit more detail...

I must say it was a little absurd for him to flip out like that. At the same time people know he is very immature and should avoid yelling for Halloween Head after every song. After his rant no one really yelled for anything but it was too late by then. It was pretty sad. I keep hoping Ryan will grow up and find a better way to deal with these things but he isn't going to. I am just thankful I didn't have to pay for tix. I hate to say this but it is no wonder his record label was not interested in re-signing him. He is just hard to deal with. That said what little bit was played was excellent. I enjoyed it tremendously but I doubt I'll pay to see him unless he is at a festival because there is just too much risk involved.

from keepsbreakindown

[FrigidRoses]

So the show ended early again and I am convinced that ryan adams is a fucking bitch for walking off stage early!! This is the third time that I have seen him and the second time he has left early! You have to expect that people are going to yell for songs considering the enormous song catalog that he has. The requests were not that bad either. It was certainly no reason to end the show early and walk off.

From the Archive

C you beat me to it. :)

[raer7385]

OH GOD! RYAN WTF!

[Sydneyfan]

*waits for people to start blaming the disrespectful audience*

[Sydneyfan]

Oh, didn't have to wait very long:

I disagree. The guy yelling for halloween head was very annoying. He was such a douche in his non stop requesting that it pissed me off. I knew it was coming. I saw it coming. Ryan is Ryan and he doesn't put up with shit like that. But they persisted and ruined it for all. Had they just STFU and let him play what he wanted he would probably be calling it quits right about now. Instead they kept on and he walked off. After the first request you should just shut up. I just hate someone didn't drag the jackass requester out and kick the living shit out of him before Ryan walked off.

Totally agree. People who shout out song requests at a concert should be beaten to death. :upyours

[Rob]

Cryin' Adams

[FrigidRoses]

Why can't he just grow the fuck up? This is just getting absurd, people yell shit at concerts. Get over it. They put on such a great live show, but if he can't handle a few people yelling at a show then just stop touring.

[taparoo]

Why can't he just grow the fuck up? This is just getting absurd, people yell shit at concerts. Get over it. They put on such a great live show, but if he can't handle a few people yelling at a show then just stop touring.
Couldn't have said it better. There are just some things you have to deal with. And from accounts at the Archive it sounds like most of the audience was very attentive and respectful, with only a few jackasses. It's a pity.

[Rob]

someone going to the next show may want to alert CNN to help save their show

[FrigidRoses]

someone going to the next show may want to alert CNN to help save their show

:lol

[steelrfn10]

My question is this: What's Neal gonna say THIS time? lol

[ewok.online]

even i, the always-on-ryan's side (and so alive? i know, i know... CHEESE) guy have to admit, this shit is getting nuts.

i mean, stories like the Nashville Summer of '69 guy at The Ryman, that's understandable, or any other acoustic-themed performance. that's a whole different world.

big room rock show?
it's gonna happen. he said it himself (in an interview i read once, around the time if the aforementioned SO'69 thing. it was in Spin, maybe?) that he focuses on the bad more than the good, and he needs to remember that, i think.

or do a tour like Pink Floyd's shows for The Wall.

[FrigidRoses]

big room rock show?
it's gonna happen. he said it himself (in an interview i read once, around the time if the aforementioned SO'69 thing. it was in Spin, maybe?) that he focuses on the bad more than the good, and he needs to remember that, i think.

Exactly. They handled it well in Charleston, even made jokes about and asked people to get it out of their systems. Why not take the same approach everywhere else you play. It's a rock show, not a ballet.

[Sydneyfan]

Nobody just automatically deserves respect - you have to earn it. Seems to me that the performers who get the most respect from their audiences are the ones who treat the audiences respectfully as well.
You get what you give.

[ewok.online]

You get what you give.

100% agree. :upyours

if it happened once in a while, i'm sure it would be forgiven, because everyone has their off nights. but with the intervals of time inbetween these walkoffs/tantrums/whathaveyou, ryan is throwing buckets of water into his boat, instead of out.

and as loyal as the Cards are, this has to be hard on them, too.


new thought.
what if this is all contrived?

[taparoo]

new thought.
what if this is all contrived?
Destroying your image/reputation on purpose? Either the man's a moron or a genius :lol

[ewok.online]

Destroying your image/reputation on purpose? Either the man's a moron or a genius :lol

just remember, we're talking about a guy who consistantly complains that he doesn't like being "RYAN ADAMS".

[Sydneyfan]

100% agree. :upyours

new thought.
what if this is all contrived?

Anything is possible I guess, but it's a pretty high risk strategy for a touring band.
And Ryan must be an outstanding actor. I remember the look on his face (they upped the lights at the end) and his tone of voice just before he finished the Sydney show - if he wasn't really pissed off he should be auditioning for movies.

[raer7385]

new thought.
what if this is all contrived?

I hope not........for the sake of his career. his loyal fans may not forever continue to be loyal. Ryan needs to WAKE UP and come to the realization that he is harming his career.................what pays the bills and allows him to be a singer/songwriter (what means the most to him)

[ewok.online]

Anything is possible I guess, but it's a pretty high risk strategy for a touring band.
And Ryan must be an outstanding actor. I remember the look on his face (they upped the lights at the end) and his tone of voice just before he finished the Sydney show - if he wasn't really pissed off he should be auditioning for movies.

well, maybe contrived was a little far.
maybe he just has stopped caring altogether and he's just letting go.

[Sydneyfan]

well, maybe contrived was a little far.
maybe he just has stopped caring altogether and he's just letting go.

I just think he has a very unusual personality that is not ideal for someone who makes a living from performing in public. And I'm not sure what he can do about that, or even if he can do anything to change it really.

[raer7385]

i read over at the RAA that someone yelled "you suck" to Ryan. NOW THAT'S JUST FUCKING WRONG!

[taparoo]

i read over at the RAA that someone yelled "you suck" to Ryan. NOW THAT'S JUST FUCKING WRONG!
Sure it is. But it's just something you have to learn to deal with as a performer. You have to learn to deal with the annoyances that are inevitable.

[Sydneyfan]

Sure it is. But it's just something you have to learn to deal with as a performer.

Agreed. One person being an idiot shouldn't have control over an entire concert performance.

[FrigidRoses]

Dear Ryan Adams,
I really love your music. I don't think Cold Roses will ever be played like it was tonight in Birmingham. Seriously, it was that good. I even feel like the way you played Shakedown on 9th was better than on Heartbreaker. Rescue Blues was incredible and What Sin was possibly the coolest I'd ever heard you do it. My wife really got excited when you played "I Taught Myself How To Grow Old." That's one of her favorites.

I'm not at all disappointed in your music tonight (I can't wait to get my hands on the bootleg). I'm disappointed with how you handled yourself on stage and how I was robbed of hearing you play because other people were yelling out songs for you. Dude, they were your songs too... I didn't hear anyone heckle you with Summer of '69 until you started whining about it. I can't tell you how many nights I've had to put up with people yelling for me to "Play Freebird!" or, my personal favorite, "Do You Know Any Ryan Adams?!?!". I would do a lot to be in your shoes professionally and if you're so miserable on stage being asked to play songs that you wrote and that people love then it makes me think you're undeserving. Not all of us get a shot like you got so be thankful for what you have while you have it.

This guy wrote a pretty good review of the show...
http://jonblackmusic.blogspot.com/

[Starlite]

Whoa. Not again :\

[Libertine4Life]

frigidroses, that guy's letter is fantastic. totaly agree

[mattinmass]

the dude should hang it up

[hildegoat]

How long was the show? More than 70 minutes?

[g0th]

I hung around until about 12:00 outside of the buses, met Neil Casal and a few others. Didn't get a chance to ask about reasons why the show was cut early, though it's obvious. I was able to see the set list and some more great songs were coming up, one specifically was New York, New York. Oh yeah, and the bus got egged. Who the hell actually would have eggs? One things certain, he's probably not coming back to Alabama.

[hildegoat]

Oh yeah, and the bus got egged. Who the hell actually would have eggs?

Are you serious? That's just stupid.

[Rob]

time to call the egg police :confused

[FrigidRoses]

The bus got egged? :lol

[ewok.online]

the Ryan/Fans relationship is getting down n' dirty.
i'm gonna have to bring a nightstick to the next show in case of a riot.

[burgerqueen]

This is just getting ridiculous.
Does Ryan need to grow up? Of course, but I really don't think he's going to change at this point.
It sounds like a lot of his fans need to grow up too though. Egging his bus? Purposely yelling shit that you know gets him wound up? I mean, why? I don't get it.

[Faded Rose]

Isn't this all self-perpetuating? The more the fans yell out the worse he acts so the fans yell more and round we go and Ryan storms or skulks off stage and everybody loses. It's not true that there's no such thing as bad publicity. At least drunk on stage he was entertaining for all the wrong reasons maybe.

It should have been a good show - he'd mixed up the songs a bit more.

He seems to be "losing it" more and more often on this tour and I find that very disturbing. Boards like this are usually peopled by his most devoted fans and if we're getting pissed off he should be wary of pressing the self destruct button in this way.

[burgerqueen]

Boards like this are usually peopled by his most devoted fans and if we're getting pissed off he should be wary of pressing the self destruct button in this way.

To be honest, I don't think he gives a shit. I think he would be prefectly happy making music all on his own. I don't think he needs to be able to release everything, just as long as he can play he's happy. He can play in his apartment all by himself - he doesn't need us for that.

[raer7385]

To be honest, I don't think he gives a shit. I think he would be prefectly happy making music all on his own. I don't think he needs to be able to release everything, just as long as he can play he's happy. He can play in his apartment all by himself - he doesn't need us for that.

yeah, but how will he make a living?

[Faded Rose]

To be honest, I don't think he gives a shit. I think he would be prefectly happy making music all on his own. I don't think he needs to be able to release everything, just as long as he can play he's happy. He can play in his apartment all by himself - he doesn't need us for that.

I hadn't looked at it quite like that. He'd probably prefer it and I don't think he needs the money.

[Libertine4Life]

has he been like this on a tour before? i know he's thown tantrums, but on this tour it seems almost like 1 in every 3 or 4 shows end in meltdown

[burgerqueen]

yeah, but how will he make a living?

I really don't think he needs the money at this point, and if it ever came down to him needing it again, he can go back to being a plumber - where he can work by himself for the most part.

Libertine, I don't think I would call these meltdowns. Just tantrums.

[Sydneyfan]

Review from The Birmingham News.

Frontman gets testy, music remains terrific at Alabama Theatre Review rating: Four out of five stars

Will fans ever leave a Ryan Adams concert completely thrilled and satisfied?

Not likely, unless Adams gets a personality transplant and loudmouths in the audience are fitted with silencers.

Monday's 8:30 p.m. performance at the Alabama Theatre contained flashes of brilliance, spurts of anger and a rather abrupt end, possibly caused by requests and obnoxious comments shouted from the balcony.

But it was business as usual for Adams, a volatile and eccentric artist who keeps ticketholders on the edges of their seats, waiting to see what might happen.

Musically, there was little cause for listeners to complain. Adams, 32, remains an astonishingly talented singer-songwriter, capable of effortless transitions from rock to folk to country to psychedelia and back again.

He and his four-man band, the Cardinals, played two short sets (about 70 minutes total) that were dynamic despite their brevity, pulling more than a dozen songs from albums such as "Easy Tiger," "Jacksonville City Nights," "Heartbreaker" and "Gold."

The Cardinals watched Adams closely throughout the concert, following his lead during powerful renditions of "Cold Roses," "Please Do Not Let Me Go," "I See Monsters," "A Kiss Before I Go," "Goodnight Rose," "Bartering Lines" and "Peaceful Valley."

The tightly wound frontman sang with passion and played guitar with intensity on the darkened stage, and if his vocals rode low in the sound mix, it must have been because Adams wanted it that way.

Monday's performance seemed precisely calibrated to emphasize the strength and fluidity of the instruments, each of which could be clearly distinguished.

Of course, it's always a guessing game with Adams, who didn't trouble to explain the presence of Big Bird from "Sesame Street" (a cut-out of the character peeked from behind the gear on his side of the stage) or elaborate on an odd comment about "optical illusions and the card catalog system."

For most of the first set, he held his inner brat at bay, keeping his head down and focusing on the music.

Cocky, sure. But Adams' demeanor was tame compared to his last appearance here at the 2005 City Stages festival, when the audience was forced to endure his derision and wait for songs that came far too seldom amid bitter, spacey monologues.

Perhaps Monday's crowd at the Alabama -- a near sell-out, it appeared -- exhaled in relief and became overconfident when Adams approached the microphone and promised more music after the break. "The gig's not over," he said.

As it turned out, the second half was peppered by pique -- the result of an overzealous guy who yelled for "Halloween Head," one of the tracks on "Easy Tiger." Other audience members bellowed their own remarks and requests. Adams, seated at a red piano, bent over and plopped his head onto his arms in frustration.

His mood blackened thereafter, although the music didn't stop immediately and its quality didn't diminish. In fact, Adams and the band offered an incendiary version of "What Sin Replaces Love." He did begin to talk back to the hecklers, chiding them for interrupting his show and trying to alter his vision for the set list.

Horrifying meltdown? Hardly. On the Adams eruptions meter, this one barely registered, rating maybe a two on a 10-point scale. Still, it injected a sour note into the proceedings -- and left audience members wondering if Adams had cut some songs from the show to teach them a lesson.

Ryan Adams: Jerk or genius? The debate continues.

[taparoo]

He should just go back to caveman talk. Loud douchebags? Bust out the caveman.

[thefed]

one man's meltdown is ryan adams' tantrum.

[FrigidRoses]

Well said.

[taparoo]

Check out I Taught Myself. Awesome version. :guitarsolo

http://www.archive.org/details/ra2007-10-15.AKG461