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Old 12-17-2019, 09:36 AM   #3501
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:22 AM   #3502
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Man, nearly a year since it was announced he was planning to release 3 albums in 2019. To think we could have had them all, including the cancelled tour, by now is crazy...

I remember before the article came out watching all the instagram lives and other social media he was doing and thinking he looked like he was in a great place - probably naive of me at the time, but I was excited for a tonne of new music so who can blame me?

How things have changed, huh?
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Old 12-29-2019, 07:55 PM   #3503
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He appeared to be doing really well at that Cornell tribute, January 2019.

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Old 12-30-2019, 10:53 AM   #3504
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Man, nearly a year since it was announced he was planning to release 3 albums in 2019. To think we could have had them all, including the cancelled tour, by now is crazy...

I remember before the article came out watching all the instagram lives and other social media he was doing and thinking he looked like he was in a great place - probably naive of me at the time, but I was excited for a tonne of new music so who can blame me?

How things have changed, huh?
actually change for the better. his victims coming forward hopefully means a time to start healing....his tone and over use of social media was just a pretense of sorts to give off the appearance that he was in a good place....in fact, his peers and others exposed him as a narcissistic jerk attention whoring ego maniac.

here's to 2020 and here's to ryan and his vicitms bettering themselves.

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Old 12-30-2019, 04:27 PM   #3506
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Old 12-31-2019, 12:44 PM   #3507
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Remember when he threatened not to tour the US unless the Euro tour sold out? That was weird.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:32 AM   #3508
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Remember when he threatened not to tour the US unless the Euro tour sold out? That was weird.

Yeah, then felt he mailed it in when I saw him play in Europe. It was to the point where I questioned seeing him again. Just a very uninspired performance, no banter .
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Old 01-01-2020, 08:40 PM   #3509
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I know he split with his manager (or it looked that way) but I wonder if he's hired a PR company to guide his comeback. I've been wondering how he'd return but can imagine him being advised to leave it 1 year and then return with in-depth interview with a serious publication where he bears his soul and, maybe, be contrite. He'd hope to draw a line and move on. However, it's not as simple as that. I don't think many of us expect him to really mean it.

I still suspect the 1 year anniversary of the NY Times article could be the moment he chooses.
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Old 01-02-2020, 10:06 AM   #3511
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Old 01-03-2020, 01:44 PM   #3512
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I know he split with his manager (or it looked that way) but I wonder if he's hired a PR company to guide his comeback. I've been wondering how he'd return but can imagine him being advised to leave it 1 year and then return with in-depth interview with a serious publication where he bears his soul and, maybe, be contrite. He'd hope to draw a line and move on. However, it's not as simple as that. I don't think many of us expect him to really mean it.

I still suspect the 1 year anniversary of the NY Times article could be the moment he chooses.
completely agree with this assessment
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I get that Ryan's a dick and all, but putting him in the same category as serial child rapists, double murderers, and sex slave keepers? Seems a bit extreme.
Completely agree. The #MeToo movement is just completely radioactive right now...there seem to be no observed "levels" of improper behavior...just guilt and shame regardless. It's such a slippery slope...even people who have done nothing wrong (which clearly doesn't apply to Ryan) can be accused and they've already lost in the court of public opinion.
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Old 01-07-2020, 05:08 PM   #3514
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I think what everyone is forgetting here is that Ryan has more to say.

And he's gonna say it, I might add.

SOON.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:38 AM   #3515
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Completely agree. The #MeToo movement is just completely radioactive right now...there seem to be no observed "levels" of improper behavior...just guilt and shame regardless. It's such a slippery slope...even people who have done nothing wrong (which clearly doesn't apply to Ryan) can be accused and they've already lost in the court of public opinion.
no observed levels of improper behavior?

then that's not even worth the attention.
the observed levels of behavior...the pieces of shit like weinstein, roger ailes, ryan adams....using their position of power or perceived power to "advance" careers or squash careers in the name of sexual favors is all that the me too movement is about.

wrong behavior, shameful, guilty behavior is always going to be wrong, no matter what hashtag you put on it. that doesn't change. what hopefully should and will change is the culture in hollywood, politics, tv, and other work forces, where fucking scumbags calling the shots are brought down, put in prison, and everyone gets an equal voice based on their merits and hardwork, rather than how good they can suck a dick.
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Old 01-09-2020, 08:24 PM   #3516
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It's such a slippery slope...even people who have done nothing wrong (which clearly doesn't apply to Ryan) can be accused and they've already lost in the court of public opinion.
Within the MeToo movement, who has done nothing wrong, been accused and lost in the court of public opinion?
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:10 AM   #3517
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Within the MeToo movement, who has done nothing wrong, been accused and lost in the court of public opinion?
Kevin Spacey comes to mind. Legally he was never convicted of anything, doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent though.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:29 AM   #3518
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looks like he just performed in the encore at a Jesse Malin gig
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You can see some footage on the Instagram of denise_p4
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Kevin Spacey comes to mind. Legally he was never convicted of anything, doesn't necessarily mean he's innocent though.
Of all the people to be used as an example of MeToo being abused, Kevin Spacey is one of the absolute worst examples. And legal convictions are not the criteria here. Spacey's creepiness has been well established.

The only truly innocent person I've seen be falsely accused and take a beating was Conor Oberst, and that predates MeToo. Of course we should be weary of false accusations, but people keep speaking out about MeToo being a witch hunt, and literally none of the accusations made against anyone have been proven as a false money or fame grab. It's, to this point, a false argument.
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looks like he just performed in the encore at a Jesse Malin gig
Probably testing the waters, wouldnt be surprised to see him appear more in the future.
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Of all the people to be used as an example of MeToo being abused, Kevin Spacey is one of the absolute worst examples. And legal convictions are not the criteria here. Spacey's creepiness has been well established.

The only truly innocent person I've seen be falsely accused and take a beating was Conor Oberst, and that predates MeToo. Of course we should be weary of false accusations, but people keep speaking out about MeToo being a witch hunt, and literally none of the accusations made against anyone have been proven as a false money or fame grab. It's, to this point, a false argument.
You asked for one and I gave you it. "Creepy" wasn't included as an exclusion in your post.
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Of all the people to be used as an example of MeToo being abused, Kevin Spacey is one of the absolute worst examples. And legal convictions are not the criteria here. Spacey's creepiness has been well established.

The only truly innocent person I've seen be falsely accused and take a beating was Conor Oberst, and that predates MeToo. Of course we should be weary of false accusations, but people keep speaking out about MeToo being a witch hunt, and literally none of the accusations made against anyone have been proven as a false money or fame grab. It's, to this point, a false argument.
One that comes to mind Is Aziz Ansari. Maybe Iím wrong, but from what I read it sounded like he went on a couple dates with a girl, took her back to his place, she got uncomfortable with how fast things were moving but didnít outright tell him...when she finally gave him enough cues he called her a cab so she could leave. Didnít really sound like he did much wrong to me. But I also donít know if he is considered ďcanceledĒ.
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One that comes to mind Is Aziz Ansari. Maybe Iím wrong, but from what I read it sounded like he went on a couple dates with a girl, took her back to his place, she got uncomfortable with how fast things were moving but didnít outright tell him...when she finally gave him enough cues he called her a cab so she could leave. Didnít really sound like he did much wrong to me. But I also donít know if he is considered ďcanceledĒ.
Yeah. That one did sound like bullshit to me.
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