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Old 09-03-2015, 08:16 AM   #1151
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Another day, another Australian PM removed in a coup. Abbott gone, Turnbull now PM. Morrison no doubt already working out ways to whiteant Turnbull so he can take over. I'm no fan of Abbott, but I dislike coups at Prime Ministerial level. As Rudd/Gillard/Rudd proved all too well, when you go down this particular rabbit hole, nothing good comes from it.
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Another day, another Australian PM removed in a coup. Abbott gone, Turnbull now PM. Morrison no doubt already working out ways to whiteant Turnbull so he can take over. I'm no fan of Abbott, but I dislike coups at Prime Ministerial level. As Rudd/Gillard/Rudd proved all too well, when you go down this particular rabbit hole, nothing good comes from it.
I read him saying that he wants to be like out PM (John Key). Have fun with that, the guy's a complete cunt.

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Another day, another Australian PM removed in a coup. Abbott gone, Turnbull now PM. Morrison no doubt already working out ways to whiteant Turnbull so he can take over. I'm no fan of Abbott, but I dislike coups at Prime Ministerial level. As Rudd/Gillard/Rudd proved all too well, when you go down this particular rabbit hole, nothing good comes from it.
Honestly, I don't get why this keeps happening. This is Australia's 29th PM in like two weeks.

But...I'd rather Turnbull over Abbott any day.
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Honestly, I don't get why this keeps happening. This is Australia's 29th PM in like two weeks.

But...I'd rather Turnbull over Abbott any day.
Yup, we've had five PMs in 5 years. It's ridiculous. On paper, I prefer Turnbull's more centrist approach as well. If he performs well (and he doesn't get whiteanted by his own party), he will give Shorten a run for his money. Shorten is hardly universally loved, it was more that Abbott was disliked even more. The problem for Malcolm is that he was terrible during his last turn as Liberal leader in opposition. In fact, just about the only Liberal leader to consistently poll lower than Abbott is Turnbull.

Australian politicians on all sides need to grow the hell up and maybe concentrate on actually governing rather than empire building.
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Yup, we've had five PMs in 5 years. It's ridiculous. On paper, I prefer Turnbull's more centrist approach as well. If he performs well (and he doesn't get whiteanted by his own party), he will give Shorten a run for his money. Shorten is hardly universally loved, it was more that Abbott was disliked even more. The problem for Malcolm is that he was terrible during his last turn as Liberal leader in opposition. In fact, just about the only Liberal leader to consistently poll lower than Abbott is Turnbull.

Australian politicians on all sides need to grow the hell up and maybe concentrate on actually governing rather than empire building.
Couldn't agree more.

A friend of mine just wrote a piece for Vice on Mal.
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Welp, the sugar rush from Malcolm's coup obviously still hasn't worn off yet, with the Libs now overtaking Labor in today's Newspoll 51 to 49 two party preferred. Fairfax has apparently flipped from Abbott-hating to Turnbull-worship as well - with myriad puff pieces about his brilliance appearing daily. The News ltd papers are currently sulking (Tones was Rupert's boy) but I suspect they'll back him when the election gets closer.

Editorials forecasting Shorten's imminent demise are already appearing - Bill will be desperately hoping Turnbull stuffs up majorly sometime soon.
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Welp, the sugar rush from Malcolm's coup obviously still hasn't worn off yet, with the Libs now overtaking Labor in today's Newspoll 51 to 49 two party preferred. Fairfax has apparently flipped from Abbott-hating to Turnbull-worship as well - with myriad puff pieces about his brilliance appearing daily. The News ltd papers are currently sulking (Tones was Rupert's boy) but I suspect they'll back him when the election gets closer.

Editorials forecasting Shorten's imminent demise are already appearing - Bill will be desperately hoping Turnbull stuffs up majorly sometime soon.
Well...yeah.

I'd say Bill has cause for worry.
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New Zealand getting Auckland City Limits - music festival in March, it's the first international extension of Austin City Limits. I have high hopes for this.
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New Zealand getting Auckland City Limits - music festival in March, it's the first international extension of Austin City Limits. I have high hopes for this.
My Auckland friend will be very pleased about this.
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Joe Hockey is quitting politics to become the Australian Ambassador to the US. I guess that's Turnbull's way of saying "Thanks Joe. Now piss off". It also means North Sydney (my federal seat) will have to have a byelection, probably before Christmas. It's a super-safe Lib seat, so it'll be the same horse, different rider.
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Joe Hockey is quitting politics to become the Australian Ambassador to the US. I guess that's Turnbull's way of saying "Thanks Joe. Now piss off". It also means North Sydney (my federal seat) will have to have a byelection, probably before Christmas. It's a super-safe Lib seat, so it'll be the same horse, different rider.
I find that funny and sad.
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Really? Everyone in colonial Australia was so drunk, all the time, that our accent now resembles a drunken slur? Hmmm. In the words of one Julia Gillard, I think this article might be full of hyberbowl.

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The distinctive Australian accent is the result of a “drunken slur” caused by the heavy drinking of the early settlers, according to a communication expert from the country.

"It's not just about pronunciation; vocal quality or timbre matters, as does intonation – the way the pitch of the voice rises and falls."

In an impassioned call for Australian schools to teach verbal expression and delivery, Dean Frenkel, a public speaking and communication lecturer at Melbourne’s Victoria University, said “drunken Aussie-speak” was formed generations ago but has continued to be passed on to children by sober parents.

“The Australian alphabet cocktail was spiked by alcohol,” he wrote in The Age.

“Our forefathers regularly got drunk together and through their frequent interactions unknowingly added an alcoholic slur to our national speech patterns… Aussie-speak developed in the early days of colonial settlement from a cocktail of English, Irish, Aboriginal and German – before another mystery influence was slipped into the mix.”

Mr Frenkel said poor communication was “not related to class” but was evident among all sectors of Australian society.

“The average Australian speaks to just two thirds capacity – with one third of our articulator muscles always sedentary as if lying on the couch; and that's just concerning articulation,” he wrote.

“Missing consonants can include missing ‘t’s (impordant), ‘l’s (Austraya) and ‘s’s (yesh), while many of our vowels are lazily transformed into other vowels, especially ‘a’s to ‘e’s (stending) and ‘i’s (New South Wyles), and ‘i’s to ‘oi’s (noight).”

Most experts believe the Australian accent – known for its flat tone, nasality and elision of syllables - developed from the mix of dialects found in the early colony, whose residents included convicts and settlers from across Britain and Ireland. Various myths have arisen to try to explain certain features of the Australian drawl, including the claim that Australians mumble to avoid swallowing flies.

"The children in the new colony would have been exposed to a wide range of different dialects from all over England but mainly the south east, particularly from London"

The Australian accent has long proven divisive, with Winston Churchill calling it “the most brutal maltreatment which has ever been inflicted upon the mother tongue of the great English speaking nations”. In contrast, Mark Twain apparently expressed a fondness for the constant tendency to abbreviate words and drop syllables, saying the accent was soft and had “a delicate whispery and vanishing cadence which charms the ear”.
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Really? Everyone in colonial Australia was so drunk, all the time, that our accent now resembles a drunken slur? Hmmm. In the words of one Julia Gillard, I think this article might be full of hyberbowl.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-settlers.html
Had to post that on my FB feed. Curious to see what kind of responses it gets.
I was subject to so very many Australian accents during my time there, it was really quite fascinating. From my very snobby former father-in-law to the yobbo on the late night tram.
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A new theory out of Victoria University in Melbourne suggests that the Australian accent is not (as previously thought) the product of blending dialects, but is actually the result of Australians continually getting shit-faced together.

“Our forefathers regularly got drunk together and through their frequent interactions unknowingly added an alcoholic slur to our national speech patterns,” says public speaking and communication lecturer Dean Frenkel. “…Aussie-speak developed in the early days of colonial settlement from a cocktail of English, Irish, Aboriginal and German – before another mystery influence was slipped into the mix.”

But Frenkel isn’t having anymore of this Australian slur speak:

“The average Australian speaks to just two thirds capacity – with one third of our articulator muscles always sedentary as if lying on the couch; and that’s just concerning articulation.

Missing consonants can include missing ‘t’s (impordant), ‘l’s (Austraya) and ‘s’s (yesh), while many of our vowels are lazily transformed into other vowels, especially ‘a’s to ‘e’s (stending) and ‘i’s (New South Wyles), and ‘i’s to ‘oi’s (noight).”

As The Telegraph remembers, Winston Churchill once called the Australian accent “the most brutal maltreatment which has ever been inflicted upon the mother tongue of the great English speaking nations.” (Note: Churchill died before Bob Dylan could really peak.)

But outside of the brutal tactics of colonialism, fighting trends in language is typically a losing battle. The drunken Australian accent—like uptalk (another staple of the Aussie dialect) and vocal fry—is will remain until it naturally develops into something else.

Good onya, Australia! Keep being your sloppy selves and inflicting your brutal maltreatment onto the mother tongue of the great English speaking nations.
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My Dad told me the fly story when I was a little kid, and I believed it for years. If you've ever heard my Dad speak, you'd know why. He can pretty much talk without moving his lips.
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So, I'm going to a Sam Harris lecture in January, and it turns out that the billboard company hired to promote his tour has withdrawn its services because someone might find the ads offensive.

Goodness me, couldn't have that.



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Unless there's the promise of a lunch and champagne, I'm not usually all that fussed with the Melbourne Cup, but yesterday's race was something special.

Michelle Payne became the first female jockey in history to win the Cup. Better still, she did it while wearing Suffragette colours and riding an unfancied horse from Ballarat that was a 100 to 1 long-shot. Immediately after the ride, she thanked those who supported her and told everyone else who had doubted her to "get stuffed".

Michelle and her brother Steven, who works as her strapper, were all over every TV channel and media outlet yesterday. There's a movie (or at least one of those ABC telemovie thingos) in this story. Great stuff.

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Unless there's the promise of a lunch and champagne, I'm not usually all that fussed with the Melbourne Cup, but yesterday's race was something special.

Michelle Payne became the first female jockey in history to win the Cup. Better still, she did it while wearing Suffragette colours and riding an unfancied horse from Ballarat that was a 100 to 1 long-shot. Immediately after the ride, she thanked those who supported her and told everyone else who had doubted her to "get stuffed".

Michelle and her brother Steven, who works as her strapper, were all over every TV channel and media outlet yesterday. There's a movie (or at least one of those ABC telemovie thingos) in this story. Great stuff.

I'm not fussed about the Cup either. I'm happy a female won. Not happy two horses died.
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I'm not fussed about the Cup either. I'm happy a female won. Not happy two horses died.
You mean last year? None died this year. I read yesterday that 127 horses have died racing in Australia this year alone, which is a pretty grim statistic.
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You mean last year? None died this year. I read yesterday that 127 horses have died racing in Australia this year alone, which is a pretty grim statistic.
Huh.

Perhaps I misread, but I thought I saw something that said two horses died. If not at the Melb Cup, then maybe a different race. But yeah, very grim.
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How much press is the detainee/deportation issue getting in Australia? It's huge news here.

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The riots on Christmas Island have gotten a fair bit of coverage. But I didn't see much written about the number of Kiwis in detention even being an issue before Turnbull visited Key in NZ recently.
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