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Old 02-10-2017, 09:58 PM   #1276
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I'd like to think that as a nation, we are above all that as well. The image is referring to the contents of that article, by the way.
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Finally. Former PM Bob Hawke has a beer named after him, as he should.








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Sad news about the death of John Clarke. He will be a great loss to political satire in this part of the world.


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I am actually genuinely sad about this one. I loved Kerry O'Brien, but I would watch 7:30 Report for Clarke & Dawe.
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Lest we forget.


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I'm at risk of being outraged over the outrage over Yassmin Abdel-Magied's ANZAC comment. Send help.

The right to free speech doesn't alter depending on whether or not you agree with what a person is saying, knob-heads.
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Informative piece on the shooting of Justine Ruszczyk, American gun culture and the troubling recent history of policing in Minnesota.

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Philando Castile’s mistake was driving with a broken tail light. That was the reason police gave at the time for pulling over his white Oldsmobile sedan on a late summer evening in Falcon Heights, a suburb across the Mississippi River from Minneapolis.

He didn’t live to get it fixed. Within moments of rolling to a stop on the side of the road he was dead, shot five times by a police officer who, in a moment of fatal confusion, feared his own life was about to be taken on a quiet stretch of highway.

Justine Ruszczyk’s mistake was to greet police as you or I would in her native city of Sydney, after she’d reported what sounded like someone being sexually assaulted in the alley behind her Minneapolis home late on a Saturday night.

A gregarious, 40-year-old yoga instructor and faith healer living in the US with her fiance and his adult son, she leaned into the driver’s side of the police car to talk to the officers who’d responded to her 911 call.

From the passenger side, newly sworn Minneapolis Police officer Mohamed Noor heard or saw something that gripped him with panic. He hastily drew his gun and fired across his partner, through the open window.

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Policeman Mohamed Noor shot Australian bride-to-be Justine Ruszczyk.Killer cop’s complaints record
Ruszczyk died from the bullet wound to her stomach.

There is good reason to be edgy if you are an American cop. On average, 150 of them die in the line of duty every year and gunfire is by far the leading cause of death. According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, 145 cops died on the job last year. Of those, 64 were shot dead. And of those, 21 were gunned down in deliberate ambushes.

In Minnesota, a prairie state that borders Canada and the Great Lakes, 243 police have died in the line of duty since records were first kept. Of these, 130 were shot dead. The next likeliest cause of death for a Minnesota cop is heart attack, with 22 recorded instances.

About 5.5 million people live in Minnesota, roughly the population of Victoria. In Victoria, less than 30 police have been shot dead since settlement.

Every time an American cop goes on patrol, they carry the knowledge that there are an estimated 265 million guns in the US — about one for every adult — including 111 million handguns. Statistics published last year by a joint research team from Harvard and Northeastern universities suggest that about half of all these weapons are held by a relatively small number of predominantly white male gun enthusiasts living in rural areas. For the cop on the beat, such surveys provide little comfort. Between 300,000 and 600,000 guns are stolen in any given year and about 55 million Americans legally own one. There is potentially a gun in the glove box of any car you pull over or tucked into the jeans of anyone you meet on the beat. Is it surprising if police sometimes feel at war against the people they are sworn to protect?

Minnesota is no crime hotbed. Despite what you’ve seen in Fargo, the film and television series inspired by gruesome, historic true crimes with quirky midwest characters, crime is in steady decline, with last year’s tally recording the fewest serious offences for 50 years. It is hardly the most dangerous place in the US for a police officer. This year, 70 police have died in the line of duty throughout the states and none in Minnesota.



Yet, despite these trends, the Minnesota Police Department is killing civilians at a record rate. Last year, 13 people were shot dead by police, including Castile in his Oldsmobile. Ruszczyk was the fifth person killed this year.

Why is this happening? Recently retired executive director of the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association Dennis Flaherty believes the short answer is that violent crooks armed with guns and a disregard for human life are making it more dangerous for police to do their jobs. Despite more than 300 reported assaults against Minnesota Police Department members every year for the past five years, Flaherty insists that police still have the support and respect of Minnesotans.

Retired FBI agent Larry Brubaker says the deadly problem is police having to confront criminals who seemingly would rather die than submit to arrest. “People don’t want to talk things out,’’ he says. “I know this sounds trite but when officers are saying, ‘Let me see your hands. Stop, don’t come any closer’, if people would only comply with these orders, I think there would be less shootings.’’


Castile had a gun but he wasn’t a crook. His death was seized on as evidence of a more sinister answer; that increased police shootings were the product of a racist police culture that targeted black people. A video of Castile’s final blood-soaked moments, live-streamed on Facebook by his girlfriend Diamond Reynolds from the passenger seat of the car, was picked up by all the major news networks just as the Black Lives Matter protest movement, prompted by a police shooting of an unarmed black teenager two years earlier, was gaining critical mass.

In the video taken by Reynolds, the policeman who shot Castile, Jeronimo Yanez, appears only from the chest down. The effect is powerfully emotive; an agitated, faceless cop white-knuckling his gun in the aftermath of a fatal shooting and continuing to shout instructions while Reynolds stays seated, bizarrely calm by the side of her dying boyfriend. When Yanez first approaches the car, Castile forewarns him he has a gun. Yanez thinks he is reaching for it when he shoots him. The video captures the desperate moments that follow.

“I told him not to reach for it,” Yanez yells at Reynolds. “I told him to get his hands up.”

“You told him to get his ID, sir,” Reynolds replies. “His driver’s licence. Please don’t tell me he’s dead. Please don’t tell me my boyfriend just went like that. Please, officer, don’t tell me that you just did this to him.”

Yanez was charged with manslaughter. At his trial, he testified that he had pulled over the Oldsmobile because the driver matched a description of someone wanted for robbing a convenience store a few days earlier. The broken tail light was a ruse; Castile’s family and his supporters saw it as evidence of racial profiling. Minnesota’s Democratic Governor Mark Dayton said if Castile wasn’t black he would have never been shot. When Yanez was acquitted last month on all charges, Castile’s mother, Valerie, said he had got away with murder. Dashcam footage from the police car shown to the jury showed Yanez’s actions were anything but planned. In the matter of a few, frenetic seconds, the scene escalates from a mundane traffic stop to another violent death in Middle America.

If race had anything to do in Castile’s death, it played no part in the tragic misjudgment that resulted in a black cop, Somali refugee Noor, shooting Ruszczyk, a white unarmed woman in her pyjamas, after she’d called the police for help at a Washburn Avenue address in the upmarket Minneapolis neighbourhood of Fulton. Noor, 31, had been a cop for about two years. Before that he’d studied business and economics, and worked as a property and hotel manager. In his short time on the force he’d accumulated three complaints against him for alleged misconduct, although one complaint was dropped. He is facing a lawsuit brought by a woman who claims he unlawfully took her to hospital against her will.

Noor’s swearing in as a Minneapolis police officer was championed by Minneapolis mayor Betsy Hodges, who boasted about the city’s latest Somali recruit on Facebook. Noor’s defence attorney, Thomas Plunkett, yesterday told the local Star Tribune newspaper that becoming a cop was his client’s calling. “He joined the police force to serve the community and to protect the people he serves,” Plunkett said. “Officer Noor is a caring person with a family he loves, and he empathises with the loss others are experiencing.”

There is no clue yet as to why Noor opened fire on Ruszczyk. Yet, in the US, it is a risky thing to lean into the car window of police officers called to a violent crime, particularly those new to the job. The American Civil Liberties Union advises everyone to stay calm when dealing with police, not to argue even if you haven’t committed a crime, and above all to keep your hands in clear view.

Hodges says she feels heartsick and disturbed by the latest police shooting. The fatal sequence of events, captured in the drab monotone of police radio, offers scant insight. We hear officers responding to reports of a female screaming behind a building followed by a curt dispatch: “Shots fired … one down at Washburn.” An officer says he is administering CPR. “No suspects at large,” he reports.

Had Ruszczyk not called police that night, she would have been married next month to Don Damond, the manager of a casino that operates on Sioux land just outside of Minneapolis. Damond says he had been given next to no information by police about what happened to his partner. Damond’s 22-year-old son Zach says he feels as though he has lost his mum, as well as his best friend.

“Basically, my mom is dead because a police officer shot her for reasons I don’t know and I demand answers,’’ he says. “If anybody can help, just call the police and demand answers. I am so done with all this violence. There is so much bullshit. America sucks. These cops need to get trained differently.

“All I know is that she heard a sound in the alley, so then she called the police. And the cops showed up. She was a very passionate woman and she probably thought something bad was happening. And next thing I know, they take my best friend’s life. This has to stop. This has to stop.’’

The only certainty is it won’t. Ruszczyk is the 524th person killed by police in the US this year. More people will be killed this week. Every week, on average, 20 people are killed by police officers. That’s about three a day, every day, across this wide, gun-toting nation.

Additional reporting: Olivia Caisley



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...e6d83099225d01

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We have an election here in a few weeks. After all year looking like it was only going one way (that being the way of the incumbent National government, who I'm not a fan of at all) until the Labour party decided a change in leadership was what was required (the current leader stood down for the good of the party rather than it being a coup) and in the last few weeks they have soared in the polls until we are now at the point that both major parties are neck and neck only a few weeks out.

The new Labour leader is Jacinda Adern, who is the youngest ever leader of the Labour party and is a real breath of fresh air, I've always held her in high regard and thought that she was a future PM but probably not this soon. She is definitely showing herself to be the full package though, and people are really responding. It's going to be an exciting election for sure.

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There was a fair bit of media here about her around the time that Barnaby Joyce discovered he was a Kiwi. She seems impressive.
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Australians will have a say on same sex marriage starting next week, with a non-compulsory postal ballot on the issue being sent to every citizen. Why we're doing it in such a wonky way is a long and boring political saga that reminds me yet again that our current politicians are about as useful as boobs on a bull.

Anyway, current opinion polls suggest that the YES vote will win, and I hope it does. But stranger things have happened.....
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A grand jury will be convened in the Justine Damond (Ruszczyk)case. I don't really know how this system works, but lets hope justice prevails.


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in other news i see roger federer is moving on in the tourney

and kiwi squash number 1 Paul Coll wasn't able to beat egyptian ramy ashour at the TOC squash tournament in nyc
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in other news i see roger federer is moving on in the tourney

Great final last night. I was pleased Federer won - he's such a dignified champion.
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We almost lost another prime minister yesterday, but Turnbull managed to cling on by 7 votes. Meaning he'll be gone any day now. Australia hasn't had a PM serve their full term since 2007.

We're like Italy now, except I imagine our politicians have much duller bunga bunga parties.
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When we were kids, the threat of someone putting razor blades in apples turned out to be an urban legend. But this is much worse, because it’s real, and widespread: The Washington Post reports that in Australia “someone is placing sewing needles inside strawberries—endangering those who eat them and sending panic across strawberry markets as prices plummet and government officials scramble to find a culprit.”

In recent days, several people have found sewing needles and pins in strawberries they purchased at the supermarket across six Australian states. At least one person has inadvertently eaten one. The widespread trend leads experts to believe that this crime has inspired copycats in different regions.

Three brands have been recalled as of Saturday, and some stores have stopped selling berries altogether. But in an effort to keep the strawberry market from crashing completely, producers are urging consumers to keep buying them, just being sure to cut them up very carefully before consuming.
Meanwhile, authorities are looking into metal detectors and examining every level of produce distribution to try to find the culprit or culprits. CNN reports that “The government of Queensland has offered $100,000 Australian dollars (about $71,510) to anyone with information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the person responsible for the strawberry contamination.”
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Yes, its a real shame. Some dickhead started it, and I would think most of the other cases now are just copycats or people putting the needles in themselves in the hope of getting some compensation from the supermarkets. Meanwhile, the poor strawberry farmers are going broke. Our 3 major supermarket chains have taken all the strawberries off the shelves, and those places that are selling them are charging as low as $1 a punnet. I'm still buying them - just cutting them in half before eating them. The chances of getting a needle are really tiny, but people do panic....
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And just read that someone has apparently found a needle in an apple now. Probably couldn't buy any strawberries.......
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This is terrible. Multiple fatalities and multiple gunmen being reported in a shooting at a mosque in Christchurch, NZ.




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Jesus. This from The Guardian.

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The bomb is located inside a beige Subaru that has crashed on Strickland Street, about three kilometres from the Al Noor Mosque where the shooting took place.

“You’re not safe here, there’s a bomb in that car,” a senior police officer told our reporter Eleanor Ainge Roy. She and the police have moved back several hundred metres, to stay at a safe difference.
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This is terrible. Multiple fatalities and multiple gunmen being reported in a shooting at a mosque in Christchurch, NZ.









https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12213039


I’m just in shock, this shit doesn’t happen here. I’m not even in Christchurch, but I’m feeling pretty shaken - still making my way home from work, really just want to be at home right now.


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The fucker live streamed it on Twitter


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And he had apparently published a manifesto ( why do these white supremacist types always have to publish a manifesto?) on 8 chan a few days ago.

Looks like the police have captured one gunman - possibly Mr Manifesto - and its not clear whether there are any other gunman at this stage from what I can gather from media reports.

Take it easy lukin, it's a horrible day for you guys.
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Re: The Australian/NZ Chat Thread

Update from police media briefing - they have four people in custody. Three men, one woman. Garbage people.
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Re: The Australian/NZ Chat Thread

meanwhile in the States Trump today openly suggested that "Bikers for Trump", and the police and military would rise up and murder liberals if he didn't get his way... #goodtimes
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