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Old 05-07-2009, 06:04 PM   #1
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Let's Discuss Conspiracy Theories

Were Kurt and Marilyn murdered? Who really killed JFK? I've noticed a fair bit of discussion about conspiracy theories here lately. Are you a believer in some and if so, which ones and why? Or are you a skeptic and believe that none of the various theories are credible?
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:13 PM   #2
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I always wonder about Elliott Smith...
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I put Yoshi in his conspiricy glasses for this one...
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If only Atlantis smelt like bacon, Yoshi could probably find it again.
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Re: Let's Discuss Conspiracy Theories

Elliott Smith is about as much a conspiracy theory as the Sid and Nancy story is.

Love Elliott, but don't put much stock into the conspiracy theories surrounding his death.
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And Syd, this must have been spawned by our Alien Gods talk!
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I believe in aliens, I believe that JFK and Marilyn were murdered, but not enough to look into it to give you facts. Because I have forgotten the unsolved mysteries/history channel/discovery channel shows that have led me to believe this.
I believe in ghosts from experience.
Oh, and I believe that 9/11 was an inside job, but I don't want to spew facts, because I really don't want to start an argument.

I also believe the Ryan tried to change the board not something about hotels was posted re: altcountry.org/ryanadams.org
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I am a genuine conspiracy theorist.
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And Syd, this must have been spawned by our Alien Gods talk!
It was...I don't take much stock in conspiracy theories myself, but I realised in that thread that other people are interested in them and its a good talking point.


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Actually, that is one conspiracy theory I do tend to believe in.

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If only Atlantis smelt like bacon, Yoshi could probably find it again.
Serious, once he let us dress him up as Cinderella + tiara for a raw turkey neck.
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I am about as skeptical as they come about conspiracy theories. Don't believe any of them.
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Actually, that is one conspiracy theory I do tend to believe in.
I have wondered if there was money exchanged for this...
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I have wondered if there was money exchanged for this...
Anything is possible I suppose...I would have thought it was more likely to be the threat of legal action since Whiney's name was used in the forum title. Once you take away his name, its hard for him to sue for much.
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Anything is possible I suppose...I would have thought it was more likely to be the threat of legal action since Whiney's name was used in the forum title. Once you take away his name, its hard for him to sue for much.
I'd bet it was just the threat and the name. I can't imagine him paying someone off- he's too much of a little bully to back down like that.
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On the subject of Ryan related messageboard conspiracies, there is also the mysterious case of the poster who seemed to know someone was going to get investigated by the FBI for file sharing the night before it happened. My memory is not exactly clear on the details, but I don't think I am imagining the fact that someone on the old ryanadams.org posted a long, mostly incoherent and very angry rant about people leaking JCN tracks. This person basically said that the people responsible were going to get it, big time. To be honest I can't recall whether it sounded like a Ryan post or not, but I do remember bad spelling, a lack of punctuation and the fact that whoeever was writing it was obviously enraged and high as a kite. Nobody took much notice I don't think - the old ryan board used to get a lot of crazy posts - but the next day or so, two people were arrested for leaking JCN tracks. Just to add to the drama, at some point soon after making the comments, the poster came back and erased everything.

I assume they lost all their older posts when they changed over to become alt.country.org, but even if they didn't I think it was all zapped anyhow. So we'll never know and I guess its sort of pointless now anyhow.
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And for the public record, I am not accusing Ryan Adams of anything. He told Rob the JCN drama was nothing to do with him and apologised for it. I'm just relating a curious story about messageboards.
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Re: Let's Discuss Conspiracy Theories

I've said this before and it seems no one else remembers it but when Ryan started dating an unknown women from what we guessed was the Boston area (because of some blog posts) and it turned out to be JH but we don't know yet. Some one named Anonymous (but it was spelt VERY badly) put a link to her board.

Not quit as dastardly as Syd's story but strange none-the-less.
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And for the public record, I am not accusing Ryan Adams of anything. He told Rob the JCN drama was nothing to do with him and apologised for it. I'm just relating a curious story about messageboards.
interesting.

as for the ryanadams.org drama...

i think something must've sparked ryan's sudden fury and demands to shut the website down (he didn't want to change it, he wanted it shut down so they took his name out of it so that he couldn't complain anymore).
but i have never seen anyone say that they saw the thread that was supposed to contain ryan's hotel information and the stuff about his family someone apparently posted. and with the number of regular posters on that board, someone must've seen it other than ryan.
i've always found that very mysterious.
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I believe in aliens, I believe that JFK and Marilyn were murdered, but not enough to look into it to give you facts. Because I have forgotten the unsolved mysteries/history channel/discovery channel shows that have led me to believe this.
I believe in ghosts from experience.
Oh, and I believe that 9/11 was an inside job, but I don't want to spew facts, because I really don't want to start an argument.

I also believe the Ryan tried to change the board not something about hotels was posted re: altcountry.org/ryanadams.org
totally agree. What is that doc online you can watch that shows so much shady info? Lost change? Loose change? Oh I forget. If I remember I will post. Def worth watching.
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I don't want to get into an argument either, but surely there's no way Sept 11th would have been an inside job...no chance. I admit there is great evidence which says it was and I know lots of books and programmes have been made etc and in some ways i'd love to believe it because that would just be amazing in terms of shock value...but come on, no way.
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I tend to think that the bigger conspiracy theories are just that, theories. Usually these theories revolve around so much intricate panning and reasoning and involve alot of people (such as 9/11 and JFK conspiracy)How is it that these vents that require a SHIT TON of coverup are not exposed by some link in the chain.

Because of a failure of exposure, I tend to believe the real story and not a theory.

I mean, hell, a movie star can't even take a shit without it being in some paper, what makes people believe that some people crashed 4 planes killing 3000 and they can get away with it with no one knowing.
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I tend to think that the bigger conspiracy theories are just that, theories. Usually these theories revolve around so much intricate panning and reasoning and involve alot of people (such as 9/11 and JFK conspiracy)How is it that these vents that require a SHIT TON of coverup are not exposed by some link in the chain.

Because of a failure of exposure, I tend to believe the real story and not a theory.

I mean, hell, a movie star can't even take a shit without it being in some paper, what makes people believe that some people crashed 4 planes killing 3000 and they can get away with it with no one knowing.
because are goverment is filled with a bunch of liars. That's why. And I am not usually a conspiracy believer, but I think this a big inside job.
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