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#3251 |
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Yeah a lot of people stayed silent through this. Pretty sure not all of his friends have deserted him but still dont think Blue Note will distribute the record. Whilst Im not defending him, really none of us know what has gone on, he deserves to have his say on the allegations because so far he's had a trial by Social media. Looks like he is still trying to figure out the best way to do it. Ive also got so many questions that would probably make you think I was defending him. I get that for some no matter what theyve had enough. At the moment Im sitting on the fence, see how this plays out.
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#3252 |
Still Dreaming Wide Awake!
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Balphazar hasn't weighed in this either!
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#3253 | |
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
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It seems pretty obvious to me that Ryan is doing this all without a plan. There's no structure to what he's doing, and we haven't heard anything from a label about the records. It seems like he's trying to force it into happening. Don Was can be on his side and still be overruled. |
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#3254 |
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 531
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
the major labels still release Chris Brown music.
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#3255 |
Join Date: Apr 2016
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#3256 |
Join Date: Feb 2014
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#3257 |
The King Of The Cocklords
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Location: TEXAS
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
What a world we live in.
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#3258 | |
Join Date: Apr 2016
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#3259 |
Sandwich Eater
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Adelaide
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Thinking a bit about the Ryan stuff recently. Haven't unpacked my thoughts on everything regarding his reemergence just yet, but one of my overriding thoughts is how I guess like so many people, seemingly, are just on board with it. Like, he's blocked comments, bar a few here and there, but looks like plenty of likes. I'm assuming a lot of these would be maybe casual fans who didn't have their ear to the ground so much on everything going on. I can't imagine anyone super invested would be so quickly jumping back on the train, but hey, lots of differing opinions have been shared on here already, so who knows. I think, at present, I'm sitting somewhere around "it all looks so hollow and cringey". All this shit has definitely caused me to reflect on how I view not only his music, but art in a general sense. Weird times, friends. Still haven't chucked on the music since. Curiously awaiting the next move from here.
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#3260 |
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
My opinion's if ya don't care for the man, then just ignore him and don't support it.
He's been a real POS to a lotta folk, I get it. I sympathize with those caught in his wake. But he's got a right to a career if there's people (like me) willing to still be on board, ya? It's kinda laughable (to me) the people thrashing about and telling him to get off the interwebs / stop making music. What else is he gonna do? Go back to plumbing? No! Bring on the tunes, Ryan! ![]() |
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#3261 |
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Thats the way it seems to be going. If people want to support him still, they will. And people who want to forget him, they will. He'll always have this asterisk next to his name.
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#3262 | |
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
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Really, it's too easy to see how this is all going to shake out, because he has only made a soft launch at this point. There's no public plan for an album release or tour, so he's really only acting like a jackass on social media. When he has to face people and the media, and can't shelter himself from comments on Instagram, we'll see where he stands. |
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#3263 |
People seem to hate me...
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
He has a right to tell his side of the story. Everyone is so quick to condemn and judge these days. He's basically been deemed "guilty" by the general public who's read/heard the stories. But what exactly is he guilty of? The underage girl thing is HUGE (if true/accurate)...but most of the other stuff just sounds like an immature dude who is awful at relationships in general...with men AND women.
I don't know if there's much difference using your status as artist with a record label to try and pick up girls and just feeding them lines of bullshit, flaunting your wealth, etc. to do the same thing. They are all shallow and hurtful in their own way. He's certainly not the first to do any of those things. And wanting to act like a child after a breakup is nothing new to people who have been there before...it's how you express (or better yet don't) those feelings that matters. Nothing he's been accused of that I've read (minus the accuracy of facts with the underage girl) is even CLOSE to some of the other "offenders" out there...Chris Brown, R. Kelly, Harvey W, Spacey, MJ, etc. I mean hell...Prince ADOPTED his future wife when she was a teenager...let that sink in for a minute. We've all known Ryan isn't the greatest human for a long time now. I doubt that will ever change. He deserves the consequences of his failed relationships and friendships...but he still has a right to tell his version of things and make a living. I keep coming back to the whole "cast the first stone" thing...a lot of people who are judging him have probably done the same or even much worse in their own lives. I'm sure he's lost some fans forever, but he can probably still lead a comfortable life off those that stick around. Last edited by SweetBlackMagic; 07-26-2019 at 03:27 PM.. |
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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fenk povitive!!! :)
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Missoula
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#3266 | |
People seem to hate me...
Join Date: Oct 2006
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#3267 |
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 110
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Has anyone seen the @i_am_ava account posting on Twitter?
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#3268 |
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 531
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#3269 |
fenk povitive!!! :)
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Missoula
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#3270 |
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Sorry, looks at their replies to tweets.
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#3271 |
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
dmorg has the handle wrong. I think they're talking about @iamava7...
Some really odd stuff, repeating the same message over and over. How'd you even notice that account? |
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#3272 |
fenk povitive!!! :)
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Missoula
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#3273 |
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 110
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
Couple examples
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#3274 | |
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 110
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Re: Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough
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Sorry yes that’s their name on Twitter not handle. Realise that was unhelpful. Someone on one of the Facebook groups posted some of their posts. |
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#3275 |
fenk povitive!!! :)
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Missoula
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