Dissing Ryan Adams: An Emerging Songwriting Genre

[SweetBlackMagic]

Dude needs to take a good, long look in the mirror and work on himself. Every "relationship" he has (romantic or professional) seems to end horribly. He can't even keep a band together at this point. After so long, it's clear the only common denominator is Ryan himself. He's talented AF, but damn...he's going to have a lonely life if something doesn't change.

[Knotnow]

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[Tim Simmons]

How do we know he started using/drinking again? Or is that just baseless speculation.

[Knotnow]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

How do we know he started using/drinking again? Or is that just baseless speculation.

Definitely just speculation from random things I’ve heard. Hopefully it’s not the case at all. I’m editing that because I hate to even speculate.

[JackStark211]

Originally Posted by sleigher

im pretty ignorant to that era concerning ryan/the strokes - aside from ryan covering their album - mostly cause i just never understood the appeal of the strokes and sorta sat that one out - so im curious if the bowersock connection caused some sort of strain/tension - real or imagined - thoughts?

I always thought the Strokes sucked donkey balls.

[folkjam]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

How do we know he started using/drinking again? Or is that just baseless speculation.

He made a few references to partying and “destruction”, and changed his social media bios to “stay sober”. People are trying to fill in the blanks, with a lot of harmful assumptions.

[Durk]

btw- when i mentioned 'rehab' in the other thread- it was generally meant as rehab for the mind and spirit. i have no knowledge if he picked up or not- and never would speculate.

[seatakestheship]

Originally Posted by sleigher

im pretty ignorant to that era concerning ryan/the strokes - aside from ryan covering their album - mostly cause i just never understood the appeal of the strokes and sorta sat that one out - so im curious if the bowersock connection caused some sort of strain/tension - real or imagined - thoughts?

I think one of the final straws was when The Strokes manager started managing RA; they felt like he wasn't giving them enough attention so they gave him an ultimatum. The book describes a scene where The Strokes invited RA and their joint manager to a bar and gave him the ultimatum while RA was sitting right there.

[happyhead]

This article kind of predicted a lot of things, no?

[yourkingpin]

The Dawes song 'Crack the Case' just came up on my Spotify and has some lines which seem like they are pretty obviously about Ryan Adams now we all know what we know... Bearing in mind the fact that he is Mandy Moore's new husband. The bit about having a 'second life as a talent scout' seems particularly apt...

"I got a friend who's been thinking
About finally kicking her husband out
His second life as a talent scout, finally got him caught
While she was throwing out all his clothes
She heard a voice from beyond the throes
Punish him for the life he chose
But forgive the past that he did not!
It's really hard to hate anyone
When you know what they've lived through
And once they've given you a taste
She said
This is for you to overcome
But I will always love you
In her perfect state of grace
Maybe that would crack the case"

[bluenoir]

Well this thread didn't age well.