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Old 04-26-2019, 04:32 PM   #2676
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Re: Alt-Country R. Kelly: The Thread

This thread is a real shit show.
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Old 04-26-2019, 04:38 PM   #2677
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This isn't a slam dunk case, so I don't know why he'd hang his name on saying that Ryan will definitely be charged. My opinion is that, barring some major revelation, he won't be. There's too much uncertainty and grey areas.

Yes, same here.

If and when RA does get the green light from the FBI, the super fans will naturally claim total vindication for him. Perhaps they'll light a celebratory bonfire with all their strawmen.
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Isnít that the definition of ďgroomingĒ though? Gaining her trust first and then turning it sexual in nature? That doesnít make it sound any better IMO.
That's actually not the definition of grooming. Grooming refers to establishing trust with someone underage with the intention of sexual contact *while they are underage*. What RA appears to have done is befriend someone of uncertain age, and then pursued a sexual relationship without fully vetting whether she was 18.

I don't mean to be pedantic about this, you're bending the meaning of 'grooming' in a way that makes him out to be a pedophile, which I think is a stretch (and in saying that I fully concede his behaviour was sleazy AF).
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This thread is a real shit show.
Are you just realizing this Jack?
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:45 PM   #2680
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This thread is a real shit show.
Ha, yep.

I must say though, its been kind of illuminating for me. Being a female and a moderator on a male dominated board ( we used to have more women but they seem to have sadly drifted away over time), I thought I was pretty well versed in "guy stuff".

But the amount of open hostility that some posters here have demonstrated against women in this thread has made me rethink what I thought I knew.

I get that its an upsetting situation for emotionally invested fans, and god knows, the trauma from not getting a new album must be intense, etc. Some of the "they're all witches n bitches' crew are probably female themselves, I dunno.

Anyway, officially rambling now, so my point is that the level of misogyny amongst RA's fanbase has really surprised me. Shocked me, to be honest. So I've learnt something new from the whole thing.
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Re: Alt-Country R. Kelly: The Thread

On the upside, there's been a lot of posters who have been really supportive of the women involved. Or at least managed to argue a counter position without resorting to attacking the women involved. And I know the majority of those posters are male. So, its not all gloom for the girls.
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On the upside, there's been a lot of posters who have been really supportive of the women involved. Or at least managed to argue a counter position without resorting to attacking the women involved. And I know the majority of those posters are male. So, its not all gloom for the girls.


Yep. We are not all scum, thank god. And I miss a lot of the old female posters. Iím glad you are still around Syd. Do you use Instagram? Iím friends with a few of the old board posters on that, like Hild and his dear wife.
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Are you just realizing this Jack?


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Yep. We are not all scum, thank god. And I miss a lot of the old female posters. Iím glad you are still around Syd. Do you use Instagram? Iím friends with a few of the old board posters on that, like Hild and his dear wife.
Thanks Jack I'm glad you stuck around too. And no, I don't do Instagram, but say hi to Hilde and Way for me when you can. They were lovely and I hope they're doing well.
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And what did he want from Mandy? What did he get from her? A marriage?
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Ha, yep.

I must say though, its been kind of illuminating for me. Being a female and a moderator on a male dominated board ( we used to have more women but they seem to have sadly drifted away over time), I thought I was pretty well versed in "guy stuff".

But the amount of open hostility that some posters here have demonstrated against women in this thread has made me rethink what I thought I knew.

I get that its an upsetting situation for emotionally invested fans, and god knows, the trauma from not getting a new album must be intense, etc. Some of the "they're all witches n bitches' crew are probably female themselves, I dunno.

Anyway, officially rambling now, so my point is that the level of misogyny amongst RA's fanbase has really surprised me. Shocked me, to be honest. So I've learnt something new from the whole thing.
me too. shocked and appalled.
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if we're talking about chef's....mario battali can go fuck himself. relieved after he's now given up his ownership in Eataly...so i can go there and support it.
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Guy needs to start a hashtag demanding the FBI drop RA and start investigating the true identity of SuqMadiq.
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Guy needs to start a hashtag demanding the FBI drop RA and start investigating the true identity of SuqMadiq.
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some excellent journalism, lol.

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hahaha yeah those comments.

my favorite one (paraphrasing) : "even if ryan actually did it...who cares?"
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I doubt we will ever hear the truth which is quite frustrating and by that Im not saying the allegations are or arent true I just dont think any of us will ever know exactly what ocurred. Career ended though.
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I doubt we will ever hear the truth which is quite frustrating and by that Im not saying the allegations are or arent true I just dont think any of us will ever know exactly what ocurred. Career ended though.
You think Ryan's career has ended? I don't.

Or am I misinterpreting this?
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I doubt we will ever hear the truth which is quite frustrating and by that Im not saying the allegations are or arent true I just dont think any of us will ever know exactly what ocurred. Career ended though.
should have ended it after 2006. jk sorta
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Not sure if this has been brought up before (I'm sure it has.)

But, uh.

Does the FBI like, ANNOUNCE that they're done with an investigation?
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They don't. They investigate. If they think they can prosecute, then they arrest (and we'll know then). If not, it gets dropped.
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