Ryan Adams, abuse, the Stans, and people who believe no apology is good enough

[roshea999]

Originally Posted by thefed

you seem super hung up on binary gender definitions, tim. blanket referrals such as "guys" are pretty offensive.

Fun story, I work in higher ed and I was called out for using the term guys when referring to a large group of people. I now say folks. Important things of course.

We have real issues at our institution and yet I've attended more meetings about "microaggressions" than anything else.

Back to Ryan though. I think it's going to be a long time until we see or hear anything. More than a a year minimum.

[ViolaGal]

While you're correct that there are bigger battles than these, I recently realized that I have always used the term "guys" as sexually generic. But isn't, and as I opened my mouth in a room full of female students and one male suddenly it dawned on me what I was about to say. So yeah, I don't say that anymore either.

[Dan33185]

I've heard plenty of females say "you guys" when talking to other females, so it depends on the person I suppose. Some people are just going to be offended by as much as they can, while others have bigger worries in life.

[Tim Simmons]

I use guys and dudes so interchangeably with no gender assignment, I don’t really think about it. If someone is offended, I apologize and will try to be better.

[wheelhousetunes]

I think everyone needs to add this quote to their lives: "Lighten up, Francis"

[JackStark211]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I use guys and dudes so interchangeably with no gender assignment, I don’t really think about it. If someone is offended, I apologize and will try to be better.

Same here.

[thebalvenie]

Originally Posted by Dan33185

I've heard plenty of females say "you guys" when talking to other females, so it depends on the person I suppose. Some people are just going to be offended by as much as they can, while others have bigger worries in life.

same.

[hi_there]

I just use "ladies" in all scenarios and if anyone is offended, they can lighten up.

[Knotnow]

I’m a woman and the term guys doesn’t bother me at all. For me it depends more on the level of professionalism I’m trying to have. If I were referring to clients at work I’d never use it. If I’m among friends and family I use it all the time. Dudes somehow seems a little more masculine to me though.

[Knotnow]

Originally Posted by hi_there

I just use "ladies" in all scenarios and if anyone is offended, they can lighten up.

Right on.

[Durk]

i'm still wondering whether Stans should be capitalized or not...

[Tim Simmons]

Its a proper noun

[I dont care]

Originally Posted by thefed

you seem super hung up on binary gender definitions, tim. blanket referrals such as "guys" are pretty offensive.

People that actually get offended by this should be excommunicated from society. They should be forced to try to start a new society in Central America where they will die after not knowing how to get their organic seaweed shakes and starve to death. Or get eaten by a jaguar. Or look incorrectly at some warlord who then gets "offended" and remedies the situation by beheading them.

[folkjam]

You sound offended.

[Whatever_etc7]

I´m female and not a native English speaker, so the term guys is/was confusing for me.
But I understand it´s a synonym for folks but without a deeper meaning of the thought if the gender is right or wrong.
I don´t feel offended but I also don´t feel as the word is then directed towards me, either

[Neftzger]

Stumble past the record store, end up at the movies
Try an' think of somethin else, nothin's comin' to me

[TheHappiness]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I use guys and dudes so interchangeably with no gender assignment, I don’t really think about it. If someone is offended, I apologize and will try to be better.

God this place has become insufferable.

[Tim Simmons]

I know. Trying to be respectful to people sucks!

[Stewboss]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I know. Trying to be respectful to people sucks!

What a dull world it is when this defines respect. Jesus Christ. Sorry for the blasphemy.

[Tim Simmons]

If always being kind and respectful makes the world dull, than perhaps we need to re evaluate why we make the choices we make to make it exciting (ie: just being a dick to people).

[Stewboss]

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

If always being kind and respectful makes the world dull, than perhaps we need to re evaluate why we make the choices we make to make it exciting (ie: just being a dick to people).

If always being pointless and sanctimonious makes you feel good have at it. There are very serious problems in the world, if the use of the term "Guys" effects you that greatly i suggest you re evaluate your priorities. Although pettiness is a sign of good health at least.

[hi_there]

you being butthurt is obv the most serious problem

[Stewboss]

Originally Posted by hi_there

you being butthurt is obv the most serious problem

Oh and its ok for Tim to sleep with someone else wife is it?

[dmorgan1]

Don Was is a legend.

[Tim Simmons]

Originally Posted by Stewboss

Oh and its ok for Tim to sleep with someone else wife is it?

wut?