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Old 10-13-2018, 09:44 PM   #201
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I'm not seeing any starring roles or great records from her coming down the pipeline.
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You know she's got a starring role on one of the biggest shows on TV right now?
Never seen it or heard of it until now (don't have TV service). I recant sentence #3, but maintain that dredging up all this "I chose the wrong person" crap is just a means to means to stoke publicity for her celebrity brand. Why else go talking to tabloids about your breakup? Why not simply decline to talk about parts of one's personal life to Perez Hilton or whoever?
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Why else go talking to tabloids about your breakup? Why not simply decline to talk about parts of one's personal life to Perez Hilton or whoever?
I don't have a stake in this, but this all came out in a legit interview with Glamour - it was about 1 paragraph in a 1000 word article. The TMZs of the world just picked it up and focused on that one part.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:44 PM   #204
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I don't have a stake in this, but this all came out in a legit interview with Glamour - it was about 1 paragraph in a 1000 word article. The TMZs of the world just picked it up and focused on that one part.
for sure, easier to make some headline that will draw people into reading it rather than, "Mandy Moore has a nice cushy life now"
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his twitter is deleted/down again... make up your mind kid
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Amazing how quickly a source close to Mandy sprung to action.
https://people.com/tv/ryan-adams-con...ring-marriage/
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wait you mean to tell me that ryan belittled her, was selfish, and made everything about him? YOU DON’T SAY...
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his twitter is deleted/down again... make up your mind kid
He's up and running again.
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He's up and running again.
But his Instagram is now private and says “Nothing Matters”.
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Amazing how quickly a source close to Mandy sprung to action.
https://people.com/tv/ryan-adams-con...ring-marriage/
I swear, the way it’s worded seems like it came straight from Mandy’s mouth. Maybe she told the “source” what to say. Sounds just like the interviews she’s been doing. How everything that happened led her to her current fiancé and she couldn’t be happier, etc. etc.
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I swear, the way it’s worded seems like it came straight from Mandy’s mouth. Maybe she told the “source” what to say. Sounds just like the interviews she’s been doing. How everything that happened led her to her current fiancé and she couldn’t be happier, etc. etc.
See, I'm not the only one with conspiracy theories about all this. They've been broken up for years now; I don't get why Ryan should show up in these Mandy articles at all at this point.

Ryan, of course, doesn't help matters at all by responding to them. I suppose he gets needless publicity out of this as well. But it bugs me... there was a part of the RA "enfant terrible" and contrarian approach to being a major label artist that was interesting, if not always good. These exchanges are just weak.

Mandy, if you're in such good space, leave Ryan out of your interviews.

Ryan, let a publicist do all your social media from here on out and never use it again (and make some records or release blackhole). I miss his myspace page...
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If I were Mandy's current beau, I'd wonder why my fiance kept mentioning her ex so much, even if it's low key and doing a comparison. Like move on already. You can dote on your hubby to be without doing this, you know. I agree the interview comments are shitty. And to be honest I empathize with Ryan because I can also be pretty reactive and impulsive like that.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:48 PM   #213
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Ryan Adams is not a fully formed adult emotionally/mentally speaking. He will probably never be. It's sad, and while it's obvious that his music hasn't and probably will never mature - what's worse is that he has to go through life seemingly confused why no one wants to have long term meaningful relationships with him. I feel bad for the guy.
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If I were Mandy's current beau, I'd wonder why my fiance kept mentioning her ex so much, even if it's low key and doing a comparison. Like move on already. You can dote on your hubby to be without doing this, you know. I agree the interview comments are shitty. And to be honest I empathize with Ryan because I can also be pretty reactive and impulsive like that.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Why is this publicity needed about their marriage? It's old news at best. It seems RA really flips out over things like this too. It doesn't excuse his schtick, but I think Mandy's press both gives her "poor me" publicity and (directly or indirectly) goads RA's responses.
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:16 PM   #215
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I agree.

It feels like Mandy and her vast PR team are almost egging him on knowing he'll take the bait.

It's just crappy. My brother is going through a pretty intense divorce right now and it's just horrible. I'm the youngest of 3 and older than both of my brothers were when they got married. No rush here...
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:44 PM   #216
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maybe she’s got a lot of pent up anger/resentment because he was a colossal asshole. just a hunch.
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I just read most of Meet Me in the Bathroom - man, do they really hammer on Ryan. The whole book is a huge circle-jerk off "oh man, we were so fucked up, drugs everywhere, the times were so crazy and exciting, we were all great friends, etc." but when they get to Ryan it was like "fuck that guy, we hung with him, but he was on fucking drugs all the time, he was so annoying and fucked up, screw him" and it seemed pretty mean, but then you read Ryan's take and it's obvious he's not being honest at all either.

It all just came across as odd, because literally no one really said anything mean about anyone else in the entire book - at most it was "oh we hung out, but then we went in different directions, it's cool" or "we didn't hang out, but we knew of that band" or whatever, but the majority of them seemed to gang up on Ryan - even fucking Gideon Yago of all people.

Whatevs...just thought I'd share.
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I'm almost done with it and am getting the same thing. It's obvious he irritated the hell out of a lot of those people, but they are pretty hypocritical in the book.

Another example that stood out to me: Julian Casablancas going off and blaming Ryan for getting Albert Hammond on heroin, as if Albert was an innocent boy that was corrupted.

Next quote from Albert Hammond, "I had wanted to do heroin since I was ten years old".
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Not defending anyone in the book, but if theres one fact we've learned about ol RA, its that he burns a lot of bridges. Thats probably why get gets alot of guff in the book.
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For sure, it was just crazy how the whole tone of the book changed once it got to Ryan.
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Odd that only RA would get filleted by them. Also odd that if he was such a minor shit stain in their history, why they need to bring him up so much. I'm sure RA burned the bridge, but why are they wasting page space on him.

I suppose I should check out this book, but the idea of the Strokes being anything remotely underground is a joke. Julian is a corporate heir. One of the interviewees is Albert Hammond's DRUM TECH. What kind of "underground" band has a drum tech?! Roadie buddy sure, but drum tech? They may have hung out in the Bowery, but they stink of Upper East Side money.
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im pretty ignorant to that era concerning ryan/the strokes - aside from ryan covering their album - mostly cause i just never understood the appeal of the strokes and sorta sat that one out - so im curious if the bowersock connection caused some sort of strain/tension - real or imagined - thoughts?
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im pretty ignorant to that era concerning ryan/the strokes - aside from ryan covering their album - mostly cause i just never understood the appeal of the strokes and sorta sat that one out - so im curious if the bowersock connection caused some sort of strain/tension - real or imagined - thoughts?
Don't get me wrong, they've got some really good songs. I just think the idea of new New York underground is co-opting of an honour that still belongs with the Ramones as well as the NYHC bands.
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The Strokes have none street credibility. They are just like those boys and girls who buy destroyed Levi's with holes in them for 120% of the price of a 501.
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Mandy has given another "Ryan was awful, but life is now great" interview: https://www.bustle.com/p/the-life-de...moore-13089125

Also read a recent interview with Phoebe Bridgers where she straight up said she hated him.
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