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Old 02-14-2019, 08:36 PM   #601
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Hey guys... long time no see.

The main thought I've had since reading this is- Did I ever make fun of some teenager he took advantage of? When a bunch of us made fun of Megan McIsaac for the sexy sock photos did that treatment make her think twice about speaking out? Why did I think it was funny to mock ephemeron's online hipster persona when Ryan was a full grown adult using his blog to flirt with teenagers and lash out at women who'd left him?

I'm not shocked by anything in that article and that somehow makes it all worse.

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I guess we know the answer to the lyric “oh, why do they leave?”
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I've got no way of knowing for sure whether its true or not, but let's face it - Carrie Hamilton's sister has no reason to lie about this, and RA has plenty of reasons to.
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i honestly had a feeling this could happen one day. he has been outspoken politically/ socially at points the past few years but i never recall anything supporting similar cases in this movement.

it was nothing more than me being worried when he appeared to be in bad ways but just that gut feeling. the phoebe bridgers song and depiction, how he treated his previous ex on social media, Benny leaving the band suddenly.

It’s naivety but also shows how protected he was and how insanely difficult it can be for women to come out.


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Phoebe Bridgers was twenty years old. Sorry she had a shitty relationship with another adult.

The woman who did the Cardinology cover is the only one of the adult stories that really sounds fucked up. Sounds like he basically stalked her and she alluded to even worse stuff that she didn't want to disclose. That's fucked up. Note the difference in that she told him she was dating someone and he kept pursuing her and harassing her. She didn't decide to enter into a long term relationship with him and/or marry him. Those distinctions matter.

The 14 year old girl shit is completely fucked up and might land him in the pen. And it wasn't one conversation or a lapse of judgment. It was a continuous courting over years. FUCKED UP.
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Ooof, that account is pretty damning. I remember reading threads here before about some speculation that his account of that relationship was questionable. I seem to remember that someone asked Carol Burnett about it and she had no idea who he was. So it doesn't surprise me to read it, but it's way harsher than I'd imagined...
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I've got no way of knowing for sure whether its true or not, but let's face it - Carrie Hamilton's sister has no reason to lie about this, and RA has plenty of reasons to.


I also recall reading quotes from Carol Burnett about how great Ryan was to Carrie, etc., so the mom May disagree.
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Rethinking.

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Haven’t posted on here for some time and have been reading the thousands of comments across the various outlets the past day or so. I have a similar story like so many... been into Ryan for years, travelled all over far and wide following him around on tours. Spent absolute shit loads on the all the merch and the various forms of vinyl and special bits and pieces, got married to ‘My love for you is real’, so... like many the past day or so has been real, real tough to swallow. Don’t even know what I’m trying to say here... just this fucking sucks so bad. Not sure I’ve got it i me to say I’m done with him. I had a listen to some of the Carnegie Hall boxset today to see how I felt, and I still felt the same love for those tunes, but it felt extremely sad. Man, this blows...


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Haven’t posted on here for some time and have been reading the thousands of comments across the various outlets the past day or so. I have a similar story like so many... been into Ryan for years, travelled all over far and wide following him around on tours. Spent absolute shit loads on the all the merch and the various forms of vinyl and special bits and pieces, got married to ‘My love for you is real’, so... like many the past day or so has been real, real tough to swallow. Don’t even know what I’m trying to say here... just this fucking sucks so bad. Not sure I’ve got it i me to say I’m done with him. I had a listen to some of the Carnegie Hall boxset today to see how I felt, and I still felt the same love for those tunes, but it felt extremely sad. Man, this blows...


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Haven’t posted on here for some time and have been reading the thousands of comments across the various outlets the past day or so. I have a similar story like so many... been into Ryan for years, travelled all over far and wide following him around on tours. Spent absolute shit loads on the all the merch and the various forms of vinyl and special bits and pieces, got married to ‘My love for you is real’, so... like many the past day or so has been real, real tough to swallow. Don’t even know what I’m trying to say here... just this fucking sucks so bad. Not sure I’ve got it i me to say I’m done with him. I had a listen to some of the Carnegie Hall boxset today to see how I felt, and I still felt the same love for those tunes, but it felt extremely sad. Man, this blows...


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This is how I feel.On a forum on Hoffman’s the other day where you had to list your favourite artists of all time I put him 5 behind Springsteen,Beatles,Dylan and Young and I’m old enough to be around and listening when the Beatles came on the scene.There is no one whose music has meant as much to me in the last 20 years.I have seen him multiple times live at his healthiest and least healthiest both mentally and physically.Always was aware of the demons that seemed to be lurking.
I feel for the girls most of all but also feel for Ryan.The music is unimportant now.He needs to get well and if that is a full time job for the rest of his life so be it.
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Did the new Yorker took the articule down? I can’t access to the link...


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we are talking about power. we can say he held some due to his influence in the music market…pax am, studio session time, headlining promises etc…those women don’t have any power and i don’t believe they were using him AT ALL. i’m no psychologist (thank god) but we’re dealing w/ a charming ego maniac here to paint as a victim is fucking way off base…this excuse of pay to play sexual favors doesn’t fucking fly just because it’s been how it’s done. that’s the whole fucking point of metoo!!! time to fucking change and stop this bullshit.

and as for the 14/15/16/17 year old…he’s the ADULT!!! he is the adult. i don’t need to know a thing about psychology to understand she is a star struck pubescent full of wonder home schooled so called prodigy…she got some attention in the worst way. he might not be a pedophile but i think we can all agree that if this predator was on the other end of the phone w/ one of our kids i would personally go chop his nuts off. a 40 year old, granted he’s stunted, egomaniacal and immature as fuck, but he knows better…prodding her and working her over. can we all say w/ certainty that we ourselves at 15 would have handled it any better in the face of a musical hero who is manipulating his way in the door w/ compliments and charm and promises of working together…???

i’l fucking argue w/ all of you on this. not impressed that any of you see it differently. he’s an adult w/ power and notoriety and influence.

and mandy moore is absolutely a victim. being stifled and put down and abused IS FUCKING AWFUL. i grew up in a house w/ an addict and narcissist. this guy would go out of his way to make sure the light was on him and keep her in the dark…so to speak. kudos to her to being brave and standing up against an over opinionated immature developmentally stunted jerk.

i’m gutted, sad and heartbroken that one of my biggest musical heroes turned out to be THIS BIG PIECE OF SHIT. i have been done w/ him for a while but man at least i could always go back to the music…just the other night i put on love is hell and cranked up english girls and please do not let me go…amongst others…this guy’s music saved me and my littler brother through college. so glad my bro isn’t alive to read this shit…he’d be gutted as well. the last two songs he played before he killed himself were in my time of need and rats in the wall…still have the video of him playing it on his takamine guitar

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I hear you man, loud and clear. I've also been completely disgusted with some of the defending/"but the liberal media" bullshit that has been going on in this thread (mostly by one person, who I am happy to see is now banned). It's fucking indefensible.
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Other than the reply Jason Isbell gave replying to a tweet, has anyone that could be classed in Ryan’s close circle or musicians he has played closely with come out and said something? I don’t mean defending him either.. but just made comment on any of this? Todd? Bob Mould? Even Don Was?


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Would be interesting to hear from Jon Graboff, Brad Pemberton. All the many band members he's badmouthed and left behind.
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He definitely burnt some serious bridges with those guys.


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But...the Cardinal signal!
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Not one female or friend is saying anything positive about ryan, says a lot.
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Not one female or friend is saying anything positive about ryan, says a lot.
No one would, even if you wanted to bc. then the next shit storm starts on your side. And then the media will pick it up XX supports sexual abuse etc.
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I would even say it is a good sign for him that no one of his friends is saying sth bad.
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