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Old 05-21-2008, 05:12 PM   #1
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We need something new to talk about

I'm sorry, Mandy Moore has been discussed on this board way too much.




Ryan, we need a tour or a single, or an EP.

Or the fucking box set.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:12 PM   #2
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You know its bad when the sideshow for an artist is getting discussed more than the artist.
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He's too busy gettin' down to give a damn.
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Who even likes RA anymore?
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Worst fanboard. Ever.
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i'd like to see a solo tour in the fall.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:13 PM   #7
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I'd like a solo tour where he plays Heartbreaker and 29 back to back.
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he needs to bring back the blog!
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Re: We need something new to talk about

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I'd like a solo tour where he plays Heartbreaker and love is hell back to back.
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I'd like a solo tour where he plays Heartbreaker and Gold back to back.
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he needs to leave hollywood and seclude himself.
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He needs to release a new album (that Jamie Candilaro has nothing to do with).
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Activity has indeed reached a standstill, and "A Song In The News" can only be mocked and ridiculed so much.
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Re: We need something new to talk about

i love how people want the blog now, but a month ago we were begging for it to go away. I've been taking some time to dive into some ryan stuff i don't listen to much. The Suicide Handbook is on par with heartbreaker in my opinion.

Let's start talking about stuff like that.

the intro to You Don't know Me is just so damn good.
I like the original version of off broadway, great acoustic
Miss Sunflower is a gorgeous song.

Overall a great cd. Winonna musta really fucked him up hahahaha
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i love how people want the blog now, but a month ago we were begging for it to go away. I've been taking some time to dive into some ryan stuff i don't listen to much. The Suicide Handbook is on par with heartbreaker in my opinion.

Let's start talking about stuff like that.

the intro to You Don't know Me is just so damn good.
I like the original version of off broadway, great acoustic
Miss Sunflower is a gorgeous song.

Overall a great cd. Winonna musta really fucked him up hahahaha
Oh totally. So many great songs on that album. There's just a magic there, so raw and intimate. For No One is incredible. I also freakin love that version of Answering Bell, with Bucky on the slide. Mmmmmm.
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i love how people want the blog now, but a month ago we were begging for it to go away.
I was being sarcastic And talking about the unreleased material is a good idea. We need something to fill the void.
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wow, i was just looking through answeringbell, i'm missing a lot from the suicide handbook, sad...

has anyone heard darkbreaker?
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wow... I just heard "For No One" This song is amazing. Why didn't Ryan release this cd?
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wow... I just heard "For No One" This song is amazing. Why didn't Ryan release this cd?
What's depressing to me is that I read in an interview that he was about to release this as a follow up to Heartbreaker, but decided to basically trash the sessions and start with a band and form what became Gold, which imo is inferior to SH, and one of my lest favorite albums of his.

Ah, here's the interview:

Q: You did another Nashville session before _Gold_ was recorded, and there were rumours that you were going to release an album called _The Suicide Handbook_. But some of those tunes ended up here as well.

RYAN: Yeah. I'd decided that I needed to get out of Nashville for a little while, so I packed up my acoustic guitar, went out to L.A. and holed up in a hotel room. I hung out with Ethan [Johns, producer, engineer, mixer, musician, for _Gold_, _Heartbreaker_] and just started writing on guitar. I remember I went out to his dad's place, to Glyn [Johns, engineer, producer for The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Who, others]'s place, one night for dinner out in Malibu. Ethan brought a little guitar, and I showed him "Touch, Feel & Lose" and a couple other songs, and he was like, man, you're on to something. Keep writing, keep this guitar.

When I went back to [Nashville], I was really stressed out. I had a lot of personal things going on that were more than I could handle. Everyone was worried about me. I'd lost all this weight; there was a lot of Seconol involved. It was just a real bad time.

I called up [Lost Highway executive] Frank [Callari] and said, Man, I think I really need to go into the studio. So Bucky [Baxter] and I decided to go into Javelina [Studios], which was RCA Two, Chet Atkins' room. We had one microphone, and I taught Buck the songs right before we played them. We did the original version of "Answering Bell," which was called "Just Saying Hi" with different words. We did it all in one day, 21 tunes.

On stuff like "She Wants to Play Hearts," I can hear now painful a time I was having. If it had come out, if _Suicide Handbook_ had been the follow-up to _Heartbreaker_, things would be very different, because it was very much a record obsessed with the things that Heartbreaker was.

Q: Instead you went back to L.A. and recorded what became Gold .

RYAN: We were about to appropriate Suicide Handbook to be the record. I was just finishing an acoustic tour; Frank and I were driving to Chicago to play a benefit, and we popped in Exile on Mainstreet . I reminded myself that it had been my goal for forever to try to record a me version of that. I just went, I m not feeling emotionally well. I feel very sad about things, and I am losing friends. Some of my friends were dying. So I went out there, Eth go the people together, and we created that record from nothing. We had three or four songs, the first five or six of which are not even on Gold . I think Ethan said he had some unbelievable amount of tapes, because sometimes at the end of the week he d go, Hey Ryan, go sit up by the mic for a while and just play. He would run a reel and I would sit and play songs. That s how we got The Fools we are as Men and Mara Lisa .
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and the fools we are as men didn't even make Gold's A side... I think the reason we like the Suicide Handbook so much is because it's really just him sitting with his guitar and caterwauling away.
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I'm listening to him live at the Mercury Lounge 8.8.98. There is some awesome music in that show. Where did all that go? Gold is not my favourite album either - Suicide Handbook is far superior but it didn't happen.

I don't think he should keep hanging around Hollywood/LA. If it fucked him up before it's likely to do it again. He seems to be struggling to focus right now and I'm still not sure making music is his main priority. In fact I don't think he knows what is. I'm not sure he's a well bear.

On reflection it's rather sad that he hasn't actually given us anything to look forward to - just some half-assed promises of a working on a new album, a book of poems and an art exhibition and a few shows with Oasis. And we all know you can't believe half of what Ryan says. Sad times indeed.

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They're supposed to be part of the Box Set that we were promised
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But I like Gold.

Suicide Handbook is really fucking great, though.
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I'm a big fan of 48 Hours. "Karina" is in my top two Ryan songs. "Angelina" is also just a great country/rock song. Good stuff.

And "Darkbreaker?" Where might one obtain this?
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When I grab an RA album to listen to, its 48 Hours. I love that album so much. I think its a perfect amalgamation of Country Ryan, Rock Ryan and Sad Bastard Ryan. Its perfect.
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