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Old 05-31-2017, 08:19 AM   #1
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Cool Best DRA Song 2017

Many of you are probably members of the RAA Facebook Group and have seem me harping on my current idea.


So I have been thinking of embarking on the impossible. To find the best DRA song of them all. I have created a bracket and a system.
Here is the bracket:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


As you can see I have split the vast majority of Ryan's career into 4 distinct regions (categories).
For these categories I want to pull 15 songs from certain albums in each category, for example:

Whiskeytown:
-Faithless Street
-Strangers Almanac
-Pneumonia
-Forever Valentine

Heartbreaker
-Heartbreaker
-Gold
-Love is Hell
-Demolition
-Rock N Roll

Cardinals
-Cold Roses
-Jacksonville City Nights
-Follow the Lights
-Easy Tiger
-29 (in the Cardinals Era)
-Cardinology
-III/IV
-Class Mythology

2011-Present
-Orion (I know it was 2010, but it's hard to place it)
-Ashes & Fire
-1989
-Ryan Adams
-Pax-Am Singles
-Prisoner (with B-Sides?)

My goal is to create 4 separate polls with every song from each album in each poll, run it for a week, and the top 15 vote getters will be seeded as such. Then voting for each round till we have a winner!
The reason I have 15 and not 16 is because, as the vast majority of you will probably note, I left out a lot of unreleased, yet greatly loved material. I would like to make certain selections from the unreleased material as "play-ins."

I would like to leave out Werewolph, Sleazy Handshake, DJ Reggie, etc.

I am going to add a 5th group as the so-called "play-in" group. That will consist of the following unreleased material:

Play-In
-The Suicide Handbook
-48 Hours
-Pinkhearts 1 & 2
-Darkbreaker
-Destroyer
-Fasterpiece
-Let it B Minus
-Swedish Sessions
-Exile on Franklin Street

The top 8 from this group will be a part of a preliminary first round of voting before the actual first round. Two songs will be paired against each other and placed randomly in each "region." Obviously, these wont follow the era system I created, however it creates a nice element of randomness .

******ALSO*******
In the event of a tie in group play, such as 2 songs tied for the 15th seed, a coin flip will be administered with the song that is first alphabetically being heads and the other being tails. If there are 3 or more tied, I will use a random number generator with the same alphabetical law applying to ascertain the order. In the event of a tie during the tournament portion, there will be a coin flip.

************************************************** *******

The Group Play Survey is currently live until June 7 at 11:45 P.M. EST.

************************************************** *******


From there, the field will be set, The tournament round polls will be open for 1-2 days each thereafter to save time.

Group Play: May 31-June 7
Play-In round: June 8-9
First Round: June 10-11
Second Round: June 12
Sweet 16: June 13
Elite 8: June 14
Final Four: June 15
Championship: June 16-17

Expect the polls to be up at some point each morning and closed around 10 or 11 at night, I'm not going to do exact times because my real life is, believe it or not, busy.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:24 PM   #2
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Re: Best DRA Song 2017

jesus. quite the undertaking.

if i have time i'll try to take the polls

good luck!

please post results here too

and share on faithless-street.com ???? some good ryan members there as well
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Old 05-31-2017, 03:36 PM   #3
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Yeah each group is fucking excruciating
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Re: Best DRA Song 2017

Yes, I have been getting nothing but positive feedback for the effort, but people are saying it is extremely hard to pick in each group. However, I believe if I can get enough people to participate, the end result will be a pretty accurate sample.

I think this Group Play is pretty hard too, and I made it! The field of 64 will be even harder though, when having to choose between just 2 songs each matchup and round that are majority favorites!
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Re: Best DRA Song 2017

did the survey

one thing is glaringly obvious...it's much more fun to pick the best songs in the first three categories then 2011-present

2011-present is shit compared to the other ones.

can you put that on your poll?

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and smoke it?
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:46 AM   #6
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Hahahaha, that is the reason I am doing this! DRA's fanbase is usually in 1 of 4 camps:

1. People obsessed with Whiskeytown/Heartbreaker days.

2. People who think Love is Hell was his peak.

3. People who think the Cardinals era was his best.

4. People who enjoy all of his music.

The way I designed this is so everyone has a vote in each category and each era, it's not super scientific, but I always stick to the disclaimer that music is subjective.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:25 AM   #7
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Re: Best DRA Song 2017

Anybody Wanna Take Me Home?

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Old 06-01-2017, 10:29 AM   #8
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Anybody Wanna Take Me Home?

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Anybody Wanna Take Me Home?

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As of now with ~120 responses, "Anybody Wanna Take Me Home" is in the running to make the field of 64, albeit at a lower seed.

Encourage people to take the survey before Wednesday! Let's get as many responses as possible!
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:33 AM   #10
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As of now with ~120 responses, "Anybody Wanna Take Me Home" is in the running to make the field of 64, albeit at a lower seed.

Encourage people to take the survey before Wednesday! Let's get as many responses as possible!
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did the survey

one thing is glaringly obvious...it's much more fun to pick the best songs in the first three categories then 2011-present

2011-present is shit compared to the other ones.

can you put that on your poll?

:-)

and smoke it?
Idk man all the 7" and prisoner b-sides make it incredibly tough
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As of now with ~120 responses, "Anybody Wanna Take Me Home" is in the running to make the field of 64, albeit at a lower seed.

Encourage people to take the survey before Wednesday! Let's get as many responses as possible!
How are you doing that - wasn't Anybody Wanna Take Me Home listed twice? The LiH version and the RnR version? Are they competing against each other? I'd say most everyone agrees the LiH version is THE version.

I voted quickly but thought I saw it twice.
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Idk man all the 7" and prisoner b-sides make it incredibly tough
doesn't make it tough at all

they're the obvious choices!
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How are you doing that - wasn't Anybody Wanna Take Me Home listed twice? The LiH version and the RnR version? Are they competing against each other? I'd say most everyone agrees the LiH version is THE version.

I voted quickly but thought I saw it twice.
I tried my best to leave out doubles of songs, I did however put both versions of "This is It" in their corresponding eras.
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Finally got around to doing this. Good job for sent this up, must have been a lot of work. It's gonna be fun.

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Re: Best DRA Song 2017

With 3 days left to go in the Group Play, the results have been rolling in. The more the merrier though.

I have attached to this post a snapshot of Group 4, which is 2011-Present.

This is to give everyone an idea of how things are progressing!

Once again, here is a link to the survey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9P6XBPL

Please take the time to complete the survey if you start it, As of now I have a 78% completion rate, which is to say, some people do a couple of groups but not all 5.
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Wow at lucky now + gsg

Can't believe there isn't more s/t and prisoner

And barely any of the 7" shit
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I voted for a few of the 7" songs. Hardly his best.
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I voted for a few of the 7" songs. Hardly his best.
Definitely disagree.

And especially disagree when talking about 2011 to now
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I think I Lost My Fucking Mind is just about as good as anything he's written post the Cardinals. Wish it had more love.
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I think I Lost My Fucking Mind is just about as good as anything he's written post the Cardinals. Wish it had more love.
I was really hoping that song makes the cut, but as of now, it's not looking good.
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I was really hoping that song makes the cut, but as of now, it's not looking good.
Ugh that group as is, is so vanilla

Feel like the other groups are gonna be filled w the things were tired of seeing on the set list lmao
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You guys are all awesome. With about 33 hours remaining in the Group Play stage, I have 231 respondents! Unless something changes in the next day or so, the number one seeds will more than likely be:

Whiskeytown: "16 Days"

Heartbreaker: "Come Pick Me Up"

Cardinals: "Let it Ride"

2011-Present: "Dirty Rain"

NOTE: I said "more than likely" because a couple of them are close right now .

Once again, here is a link to the survey if you have not taken it or completed it:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9P6XBPL

The completion rate is up to 80% at this point, which is up from 78%.
By Thursday, I will have the bracket set and then I will post the Play-in matchups for voting. I will be posting full results from the survey here.

Also, if you need a refresher on what I am doing, go to either of these links:

http://www.tobeyoung.org/showthread.php?t=32060

http://comepickmeup.org/?p=611
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Just finished -- very hard,

Looking at the catalog this way, I can now understand why Ryan pooh poohs The Cardinals era.

I think it comes from a sort of cognitive dissonance on his part. He probably believes it's because the band wasn't as good as the latest incarnations -- but I think it is in fact due to his song writing output.

There were a lot of songs in the Cardinals era, but fewer were truly great, and overall the song writing just wasn't as compelling as it was in other eras.

But as an live ensemble, the Cardinals are hard to beat.

The newer songs are better and more consistent.
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You guys are all awesome. With about 33 hours remaining in the Group Play stage, I have 231 respondents! Unless something changes in the next day or so, the number one seeds will more than likely be:

Whiskeytown: "16 Days"

Heartbreaker: "Come Pick Me Up"

Cardinals: "Let it Ride"

2011-Present: "Dirty Rain"

NOTE: I said "more than likely" because a couple of them are close right now .

Once again, here is a link to the survey if you have not taken it or completed it:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9P6XBPL

The completion rate is up to 80% at this point, which is up from 78%.
By Thursday, I will have the bracket set and then I will post the Play-in matchups for voting. I will be posting full results from the survey here.

Also, if you need a refresher on what I am doing, go to either of these links:

http://www.tobeyoung.org/showthread.php?t=32060

http://comepickmeup.org/?p=611
great!

i've shared and posted all your stuff over at faithless-street.com too as well also
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